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I prefer “How do you do, Ken?”-ing and “Sorry you Ken!”-ing…
This was the best thing I’d seen all day, until I saw this:
…and this is just true love:
The top image is peak Ayase Momo cosplay
Otaku when they learn about Kogal fashion:
Way better than the fad of throwing jugs of milk in grocery stores.
We had this in the west as well when I was a kid. It was called fus-ro-dahing or something.
Oh god, skyrim is 14 years old
We had hadokens before Morrowind, let alone Skyrim, when I was a kid. Street Fighter was pretty popular.
You’re goddamn right.
This quiet offends Slaanesh, things should get LOUD now!
Nah, man. This is likely Khorne for the old battle bugle
I’ve never seen this but it feels at least 10 years old
In Japan, it’s rather old and I haven’t seen anyone doing it lately (though I admittedly barely touch any SNS, though watching my wife browse insta, I’ve never seen it).
And seen multiple people using it, not just Japanese.
I’ve never seen this specific photo, but it absolutely was popular ~2010.
Tubas and trombones were popular choices among band students
Yeah, it has real ‘Early 00s
SmartphoneCameraphone’ vibesThere were no smartphones in the early 2000s though.
I left Japan in 2008. Phones had had cameras long enough that the makers had to add the can’t-turn-it-off shutter sound because so many chikan were taking upskirt photos on public transport.
Less salaciously, there was also panic about people taking pictures of magazine articles in bookstores and then not buying the magazine. Not sure anyone really would have tried to read an article on those tiny screens, though.
Phones with cameras =/= Smartphones.
Not sure what you were trying to say with your comment, nothing you wrote is relevant to Smartphones not existing in the early 00s.
This dude’s never heard of Symbian or Blackberry I guess. Or Sony Ericsson and Nokia N*** phones.
My first smartphone was a Nokia running Symbian with a fold out QWERTY keyboard.
I actually loved It, except for the ridiculous paucity of compatible apps…
You leavin’ out Palm Trēo, punk?
Palm and Windows CE was it?
I actually had a palm pilot, then a Sony Clio for reading RSS feeds on the subway commute in the very early 2000s.
The original (best) Trēos were on PalmOS, but they did make some windows ones later.
The Sony Clié was a sexy beast.
Yeah, I was thinking about Symbian too. The basic functionality of an Android phone today, Symbian already had with the limitations of its time. In 2003, you could use your Symbian to share internet to a PC, navigate maps, edit documents, take pictures, edit pictures, browse the web, etc. There was a good amount of third party apps too, including browsers like Opera and games like Chessmaster. And this was a shitty OS for this, Maemo was way better, but it came later.
I used a Symbian phone to find a cafe in Providence once while working there in winter 2005/6 or so. And got charged like $2 from Cingular for loading one yelp page listing. I was so cold, and had to shit so bad I didn’t care.
I remember. Mobile internet was ridiculously expensive. Browsers used to have an option to not download images and videos, that used to help a lot. Then Opera Mini came and these problems were gone for good.
There were plenty low quality digital point and shoot cameras though.
Fair enough, the first blackberry with a camera was 2006 (the Blackberry Pearl). So mid-00s smartphone.
Fake, she’s not even blowing on it.
I need a dramatic close up on a bystander who gasps in surprise before announcing “She’s not even blowing into it!” followed by the close up of the shooter saying “That’s right, I have gone BEYOND the need to blow into my instrument of destruction!”
Shes using an advanced technique common in bass instruments known as “slapping.”
I was there Gandalf, I was there three thousand years ago…
Darkness took me and I strayed away through thought and time. Stars wheeled overhead and every meme was as long as a life age of the earth…
╓───────────────╖ ╏I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE╏ ╙───────────────╜
Is this the next Hibiki Euphonium series?
I thought that was when you just spammed ranged attacks?
If japs didn’t exist, they should be invented.
Are you aware that’s a slur?
In America.
Here in Australia, Nip (Nippon being old spelling of Nihon which is Japan in Japanese) is the slur.
The US used to use that as well but I dunno if younger people would be aware of it these days. There’s an old ee cummings poem that mentions “nipponized” metal.
Nippon still gets used today in names of places or organizations, and the sports chant equivalent of “USA! USA!” is “Nippon cha cha cha!”
Yes, In the US. That is what I meant.
Chad Australian teaches American that other dialects of english exist
I was just trying to warn OP that it might be taken the wrong way. I know about the differences between English dialects. My favorites are Australian English, South African English, and Ugandan English.
I’m italian and in Italy that’s not considered a slur. It’s more telling someone they’re funny or amusing.
You really need to use your hands more so we know you’re Italian. 🤌
In english there’s a similar sounding word that means a joke or something done in jest, Jape with a long a
When written, Italian does look a lot like English then.
Not the sentiment, the word used for Japanese people. Saying “if Japanese people didn’t exist, they should be invented” would be totally acceptable.
It can be hard to avoid slurs in other languages though, especially when English has so many. My husband’s not a native English speaker and it comes up maybe every other month that he’ll say something and I’ll have to tell him to avoid that word or only use it in one specific usage. I’ve only been corrected/gaped at for inadvertently using slurs twice in over five years living in Germany, for comparison.
Ok, now I get it. I didn’t use “japs” as derogatory, obviously.
Yeah, it is an easy mistake to make. Generally abbreviations/diminutives for nationalities are insulting (Brit excluded)
Like Germs
Please explain
“Japs” was used by Americans during WW2 so it has pretty negative connotations there.
Do Japanese people consider this a slur? To me it seems like one instance of people using a word with negative connotations doesnt make it a slur or our list of slurs would be far greater. In most instances its just an english shortened version of Japanese.
I looked it up and it seems there is debate over this with mostly Japanese Americans finding the word offensive due to historical context with most others just viewing it as a shortened version of Japanese. (I’m mostly making this comment because Jap is censored in one of my favourite RTS games where the Japanese are a highly used nation and I hate having to use the full word over a 3 letter abv)
Japanese-Americans, referred to as Nikkei by Japan, underwent an extended detention in racial concentration camps. They were basically forced to abandon their Japanese culture and way of life to become “American,” punished when speaking Japanese etc. It’s totally within their rights to call the slur a slur, because it calls back to the internment camps.
I think older generations might know that it was a slur that was used and maybe some people who stumble upon old cartoons/newsreels (somewhat unlikely given poor English ability in Japan as a whole) or otherwise find posts like this. My wife, now in her 30s, had never heard it. I’ve met a few who have around my age (mid 40s) who knew it but all except one or two had decent English. I can’t really speak to younger people.
Older generations definitely do. It got referenced in a Murakami short story set in the 70s (or 80s maybe) where a couple of Japanese guys vacationing in Hawaii who don’t speak English heard a racist guy go off and said they could pick up on that one word without understanding anything else.
That makes sense. I never really read much Murakami (I started but don’t recall finishing one of his books). Given all the Japanese tourists in Hawaii (and probably Guam as well), that would make sense, too.
I’m from Seattle, a place where many Japanese Americans immigrated to before the war.
… During the war, they were rounded up, shipped to concentration camps on the other side of the state (in a desert), and basically all of their homes and business property/possessions were seized and sold off during the war, and while they were released aome years after the war ended, they were seriously discriminated against for decades afterward.
I obviously can’t speak for all Japanese people, but yeah, Japanese Americans I’ve known find ‘Jap’ to be a slur. There’s a good amount of newspapers and even US propaganda films shown to either the military and/or the public, and other media, that use the term ‘Jap’ alongside rascist cariacatures…
Dr Seuss, more widely known as an author/illustrator of childrens books, actually drew a good amount of these racist cariacatures.
A likely NSFW example
This was a poster, an advertisement for a war bond, drawn by Dr Seuss
The even worse slur… is something I’m not even comfortable typing out… basically, similarly shorten Nippon (which is a name of ‘Japan’ in Japanese, along with Nihon) to only the first syllable.
That one is an even more severe slur and was commonly used during the war. It’s basically as severe, rude and disrespectful as the n-word with a hard r to refer to Black people.
If you want to use a 3 letter abbreviation for Japan, I’d suggest JPN.
The shortened version of Nippon is also considered an unusable slur where im from as well since its only ever used with negative intent. Its interesting to read about the different perspectives of this word around the world. Since the word is offensive to some Japanese people I should refrain from using the world online.
It’s a goddamn minefield, especially for someone like me who hates excessive censorship.
No idea, really. See my other reply to daggermoon.
Thanks!
Well said
Worth pointing out that for the rest of the world this is often hard to navigate. Americans have a reputation for excessive self-censorship based on pearl-clutching, with “the F word” or “p*rn” or censoring nipples.
So sometimes actual strongly hateful or dehumanising language gets dismissed as another example of oversensitity.
Americans have a reputation for excessive self-censorship based on pearl-clutching
And then they’ll upvote “jokes” like “fr*nch “people” 🤮” without batting an eye…
Just to clarify, I didn’t think OP was being insensitive. My question was genuine, and I didn’t think they knew. And yes, there is a lot of unnecessary censorship in the US. You can’t say fuck on TV or the radio. I was listening to a station from New Zealand and that made me realize we’re the only Country that does that. Censoring nipples is fucking stupid too. I really don’t censor myself. I’m told I’m a very outspoken person. The only words I won’t say are slurs because I believe they are actually harmful and disrespectful.
FUCK OFF WITH THE RACIST SLUR