What a complete waste of my life seeing that piece of shit fucking movie. What the fuck were they thinking.
The film did not have a single redeeming quality. Boring ass, shit ass, bullshit film. My only regret was not sleeping through more of it.
Also WHY DO AMERICANS USE FAKE BRITISH ACCENTS WHENEVER A MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN ANY COUNTRY OTHER THAN USA? WHHYY? FUCKING WHYYY. THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN ROMANIA YOU IDIOTS WHY ARE YOU PRETENDING TO BE BRITISH FOR NO GOD DAMNED REASON
Edit: Germany? Fuck whatever, some country which notably does not have a British accent.
There’s a reason they never made Nosferathree.
Technically I think this is the third one.
I liked Nosferatu
Actually it was great. But I acknowledge your incorrect opinion.
The movie took place in Germany except for the castle and village scenes.
British accents still don’t make sense, though.
the sun never sets on the British accent.
'ello, Guvnah.
I thought it was great, surprised by the intense hate. I love eggers though
I did think it looked pretty but otherwise it sucked.
This should be in Badposting
It was good actually
It’s so bad! You can’t see a thing, there’s a magic exposition man, everyone constantly talks for no reason and the message appears to be that women having sexual desires causes the plague. Like, Werner Herzog did this movie already and Eggers instead decided to crib most of the changes for his version from Francis Ford Coppola (and from The Exorcist, the scariest movie of all time (!)). I should have realized after watching The VVitch that he’s just another middlebrow director with weird gender hang-ups that get lauded for being incomprehensible. Also, what kind of filmmaker is unable to make a movie set in the current day? Seriously now.
the message appears to be that women having sexual desires causes the plague.
Genuinely how on earth do you misinterpret the themes of a film so poorly lmao. Especially one thats so overtly on the nose about it. Ellen’s sexuality being repressed by her society is what forces her to connect to Orlok, its his embodiment of male sexual domination that causes the plague and the other male characters trying to control her that worsens her episodes. Only when von Franz tells the other guys to fuck off and let her do her thing do they start getting anywhere, and in the end
spoiler
its her accepting her sexuality and autonomy that lets her kill Orlok.
Also all of eggars movies (aside from the lighthouse obviously) are fairly straight forward. What exactly is incomprehensible about the VVitch?
It genuinely tries to explore an alien subjectivity, that of a 17th century or whatever puritan who was so extreme he got his family exiled from his own puritan community. What freaks him out, what is his horror story. It’s incomprehensible insofar as it’s foreign to our understanding in both language and mindset.
Yes but thats whats so good about the VVitch. Is weird but its not incomprehensible (aside from the accents sure). Its a straightforward story about a puritan family bedeviled by a witch, it just gives us a look at Puritan culture with depth beyond simple aesthetics and plays with the themes of both horror from the outside (the witch, the devil) and horror from within (patriarchy, repressed sexuality, etc.). Its fairly accessible without being hand holdy I guess is what Im trying to get at.
The dialog is a bit confusing at times
Ok yeah the commitment to period accurate accents are pretty hard in his other films, but then people are complaining about easy to understand English accents in Nosferatu so you cant really win with that one. And outside of that the VVitch especially is a very easy movie to comprehend: Puritan settler family is plagued by a witch and the devil (but the real evil was puritanism and patriarchy the whole time)
The VVitch WAS going to have period accurate accents but had to compromise to half way into the past is always English accents cause the child actors had too much trouble with early modern English speech.
Atun-Shei referenced
I’m a big fan
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Genuinely how on earth do you misinterpret the themes of a film so poorly lmao.
I don’t appreciate that tone. Her accepting her sexuality ends in her having sex with what you call the “embodiment of male sexual domination” and then they both die. How does that make sense? It seems like everyone save the men loses out from her accepting her sexuality. And I don’t think it’s very coherent how the movie shows that sexual desire cannot be controlled – except via marriage – because that has murderous consequences, which can, however, also be resolved through sexual desire. I just don’t feel like the metaphors here work together and that is what I meant by “incomprehensible”.
To put it more clearly: In the Eggers films I’ve seen, every woman either ends up dead or part of a childremoved cult and I don’t think women who suffer are automatically a sign of feminist politics.
I liked it. It’s set in Germany tho. At least, the city is in Germany.
it’s not nearly as good as the lighthouse or the witch but i enjoyed it. very pretty at least if a little boring. he does better making less plot driven, more artsy shit i think. i probably won’t watch it again.
I thought it was the best film of the past 5 years. As for the British Accent, I heard eggers wanted to but was basically told that US audiences would be unable to distinguish the accent from Orlok’s and he wanted the contrast.
Sounds about right. He wanted to do a more genuine accent for the VVitch as well but the child actors had a hard time with it so he had to compromise with the ol’ the past is always modern English accents thing.
i think lily-rose depp is the only american in the cast, but yeah it wasn’t great
Willem Dafoe is American
yeah, forgot about him. was just saying this wasn’t the best example of the real phenomenon of americans using english accents for romanians or russians or finns bc 5/8 of the characters with significant screen time were actually just english and one was a swede.
to be fair i watched the OG and herzog version like a day or two before the new nosferatu, but damn what a downgrade
it’s like… so modern horror movie it hurts, if i had to describe it. just threw all of the current horror trends into a movie, vampire looks like they’re malnourished instead of a vampire, almost comical sex macabre scenes. easily the least interesting rendition of nosferatu as a villain, they somehow managed to make a boring willem dafoe role which i previously didn’t think was possible, and overall it just felt like it had so much less to say. only prop i can give it is that the blood sucking sounds were pretty good, props to the foley peeps. robert eggers? ya basic
biggest horror movie disappointment to me since longlegs
love the herzog one
Wow - I liked it, but I totally agree with all your points as well! I did not care for Bill Skarsgard’s Orlok and Willem Dafoe’s role was pretty basic, but I liked most other aspects of the film. And I was so let down by Longlegs too
im being unfair, i did enjoy the movie. i was let down because i was genuinely hyped and looking forward to seeing the movie all year, and somehow expected a high budget hollywood horror movie to match the vibes of a 100+ year old silent film/a batshit herzog film, and got a high budget hollywood horror movie featuring the stereotypical horror movie creepy violin crescendo jumpscares instead
it was fine, just fine in a way that was really disappointing to me
the second half of longlegs should be studied by future generations so that its mistakes are never repeated again lmao
I was about to chew your ass out for insulting a classic but then I realized it was the remake I haven’t seen yet so carry on