Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain’t dead. Remember, don’t downvote for disagreements.

  • RBWells@lemmy.world
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    I am progressive as heck, but wow the Republicans fixed the DMV here by running it like a business. Not every part of government is amenable to that (which is where they go wrong) but some departments really can.

    Also I am pro choice very much so, but personally wouldn’t have, and didn’t have, any abortion, I don’t like it, find it horrifying. Like, my personal choice was hell no. I understand that the consequences of prohibiting abortion are much, much more damaging than allowing them, and do also think the existing woman has more rights than the potential person so maybe that isn’t a political difference.

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    I don’t like extreme leftists (they live in a bubble) but they’ve been right about everything and they are our best chance at resolving economic disparity

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    I don’t like racism against white people or sexism against men. Do I think they’re less urgent or worrying than bigotry directed at other groups? Sure. There’s less hate against men and whites compared to other groups, and bigotry against them simply doesn’t have the same social or political impact due to current systemic racism and sexism being directed at other groups. But bigotry is still bigotry, and I don’t like bigotry against anyone.

  • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    I lean pretty hard left who is also pro death-penalty (IN VERY SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES)

    • If the case has absolutely been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

    • All appeals have been exhausted.

    • Proof is absolutely undeniable.

    • Guilty party shows no remorse.

    • Crime is suffiently heinous (mass murder, child killing, serial killers, etc…)

    • A legitimate psychiatric board has deemed that there is little to no chance at rehabilitation nor does the guilty party show any inclination to want to rehabilitate.

    if ALL those things are true, (plus some that I haven’t even considered) then I would rather execute them than pay for their living expenses for the rest of their natural life, or worse see them released at the end of their sentance absolutely knowing that they’ll do it again.

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      No proof is absolutely undeniable. Especially not in an age when generative AI will soon be able to fabricate evidence easily.

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          It’s not necessarily true. I mean you could be framed with your DNA. I’m not arguing that it’s plausible, just not absolutely undeniable. For instance, I would bet dollars to donuts that somebody has tried to frame someone else using their DNA.

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        You are absolutely correct regarding AI. I hadn’t considered that. It gives me something to think about. Thanks!

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      A lifetime imprisonment is more inhumane than a death sentence.

      Change my mind.jpg

      (If there is enough solid proof ofc. You can’t roll back a death penalty)

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        A lifetime imprisonment is more inhumane than a death sentence.

        Change my mind.jpg

        Most death row inmates fight for their life all the way until execution. That’s proof enough.

        (If there is enough solid proof ofc. You can’t roll back a death penalty)

        How is the verity of the conviction related to how humane the punishment is?

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    Lessee… I suppose my hottest take is that no lives are sacred. I believe that human expansion into more ‘wild’ domains is a mistake and that national and state parks’ availability should be limited (geographically - you may not venture into the Deep Parks). This probably borders on some vaguely eco-fascy beliefs, and I recognize human’s inexorable curiousity and desire to explore, but you will never find me mourning a human victim of a wild animal.

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      Does that also apply to hypothetical martian settlements? If people ever technically managed to live on mars.

      There’s definitely no higher life on mars (or we would have already found it), and it’s also unlikely that there’s any life at all - not even microbial life (due to an absence of liquid water on the surface).

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        Yes? I’m not so optimistic about humans becoming interplanetary, but if it were to happen, I’d make noise to try and limit any human settlement. I’d argue that if humans want so badly to be off this rock, they can make space arcologies designed around themselves rather than inserting themselves where they ought not be and fucking up wherever they land.

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    We should try harder to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals, sometimes taxation is necessary and sometimes it’s beneficial even if we don’t factor in revenue, people will sometimes make decisions that are so bad that we have a moral obligation to intervene in order to protect them from the most disastrous outcomes

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      people will sometimes make decisions that are so bad that we have a moral obligation to intervene in order to protect them from the most disastrous outcomes

      in archaic times, due to the primordial habit of turning people into slaves if they couldn’t repay their debts, people were legally forbidden from going into debt at all, except if they could prove that they were a reasonable person and it was economically likely that they could pay back the debt. that was in order to prevent them from the bad fates of slaves; which makes sense to me.

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    Immigration is universally a roaring net positive in all of history ; economically, socially, everything. It’s more than disinformation when they spew talking points. It’s hate. And most people complicit are just fully ignorant. USA lost their empire due to lack of education. Every other first world nations have their success in lockstep with the level of education they give their kids. A heist of all wealth has been conducted and you are viewing the aftermath. Elon will find your coffers empty. The real treasure, turns out, was the people.

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      counterpoint:

      the labor market is a market, and as such regulated by the rule of Supply and demand. That implies: if the supply is increased, then the price is decreased. If the supply is decreased, then the price is increased.

      In the context of the labor market, that means: If there’s fewer workers in the country (which comes naturally with a smaller population), then the price for labor (a.k.a. wages) goes higher. That increases the Quality Of Life for the people, and is therefore a socially good thing.

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      Is it your political creed commonly against immigration?

      From your post history you see left leaning which is just almost always pro-immigration.

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      Ah, you must be a anarcho-monarchist anti-kakistocrat, are famed for their disbelief of bigfoot.

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        There are some who call me Tim. I can summon controversy without flint or tinder.

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      Seeing as people have pushed out to every tiny corner of the country if it exists they would’ve found physical remains by now.

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        No they haven’t. Not even close.

        And even if they did, you think a people-shy creature is just going to remain in the same exact spot for someone mapping out an area to come across them?

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    I don’t really know what constitutes a “political creed,” really, so I don’t know how to answer.

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      Poor choice of words, perhaps. I meant those who generally share your political opinions in other respects. For instance, “anarcho-communist” or “libertarian”

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          I don’t think so. Labels only have so much resolving power. They represent people who are broadly aligned in values, but not necessarily on every specific issue.

          For instance, I think most libertarians have individual dissent from their norm on various topics. It should be easy to find examples in the case of libertarianism, but I believe this applies to other political ideologies too.

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            “Libertarian” is far more broad than, say, Marxist-Leninist or Anarcho-Communist. When you go from “Marxist” as an umbrella to “Marxist-Leninist” as a category within Marxism, you are generally conforming to that specification’s tendencies. At that point of specificity, there are more “solved” questions than unsolved.

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              Oh yeah sure. More solved questions than unsolved seems like a good way to put it. But there are still points of dissent though.

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      Why are you centrist? To clarify, if you make your political decisions yourself but almost always happen to align with one of the parties, I would consider you in that party rather than a centrist.

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      I think the way to respond is “what do you believe that most centrists don’t” – though I feel like centrists are varied enough that you’ll have trouble with this.

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      The left has become so focused on illegal immigrants and identity politics that they have abandoned working class economic issues and rural white voters and it has cost them elections.

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      They go hand-in-hand, though, and moreover “true economic equality” isn’t possible when humans vary wildly in needs and abilities, hence Marx’s whole attack on the so-called “equalitarians.”

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          This country would need another 250 years of progressive policies to undo the social and economic damage it has done through racist policy. 20 years of progressive politics can’t undo 2.5 centuries of racial exploitation and division.

          Let’s not forget additionally that the USs elected “progressive” politicians for the last two decades fall right of center by world standards as well. If the US would like to actually make progress (hint: it doesn’t, our geriopatrikyriarchy LOVES genocide and exploitation of smaller nations) they’d have to start by not calling the conservative party the left, and not calling the Nazi party the right.

          This nation has its head in the political sand so deep it can’t even see its own nose anymore, it will be well collapsed and already rebuilt before it realizes it’s a different nation run by different people.

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        When you look at revolutions the tipping point was always the threat of going hungry and losing your home. That makes everyone desperate.

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        And you’re not going to miss a days pay to protest or vote when you know neither candidate gives a shit about your health and well-being.