(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)
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Even if trump doesn’t do everything in project 2025, the supreme court picks mean we’re basically ultra fucked. Like, that’s best case.
Between 2017 and 2021, things got pretty bad. Riots, wars, a plague, economic crash, and it ended with a mob breaking into the nation’s capital and trashing the place.
Can’t imagine a repeat will be better.
That was with moderates and non-partisan civil servants playing interference on his worst ideas.
You remember everything that came out about how people would ignore his orders until he forgot?
None of those people will be there
America has always been a white supremacist slave colony.
It will still be fucking over the entire planet.
Breathtakingly fucked. Wannabe dictator with a mandate from the dumbest mfers alive.
But take heart. The battle for the US is now a fight between the old guard Reaganite Republicans and the out&out Fascists. For the next 4 years at least the Dems are a complete non-factor. I hope the DNC is proud of their accomplishment.
All the worst possible things that could happen are now not just on the table but incredibly likely.
old guard Reaganite Republicans
So, the non-overt fascists?
Some people are going to die-- mostly women. More people are going to have their lives turned upside-down, especially immigrants and ethnic and sexual minorities. Many immigrants, even legal ones, are going to be expelled. Corporations are going to run wild as regulation is abandoned. People are going to be bankrupted by predatory healthcare firms at a much higher rate than now. Every form of corporate pollution, adulteration, cheating and chicanery will be tolerated. The judiciary will be further corrupted. The US will not only withdraw from NATO, but will try to shut it down. Ukraine will be handed to Putin on a platter. Taiwan, the Baltics, Moldova and Poland will be left to fend for themselves. The ethnic cleansing in Gaza will transition even further to a full-scale genocide. Every aspect of government will be handed to corrupt, incompetent fanatics: kakistocracy all the way down. The impartiality of the civil service will be destroyed and the 19th-century spoils system reinstated. Social Security will be privatized and gutted. Obamacare will be eliminated. Congress will hold show trials of Trump’s perceived enemies. Terrorist acts and sabotage of critical infrastructure will massively increase, and the clampdowns that follow will be used to further degrade what few rights we still have.
But at least you won’t have Kamala’s pantsuit to complain about.
bro, i know all that stuff is bad, but have you heard her laugh? we made a solid choice.
(i hope i don’t need the /s, but Poe’s Law says i probably do)
All that, and you may have left out the most damaging of all… Trump will likely pull the US out of Copenhagen, leaving no chance of limiting temps below 2C let alone getting anywhere near 1.5C. The excess deaths from this will likely dwarf COVID.
Honestly, I can’t be bothered to worry about the climate 100 years from now when we’re going to be attacking (many more) Americans 100 days from now
Don’t get me wrong, Drumph’s second term will be bad for everyone. But the climate issue is going to be truly catastrophic on a scale even he and his cronies can’t match. There should be plenty of worry to go around.
100 years from now? Ha, you wish. With Trump in the White House we will speed run through all the tipping points that remain
Wait until he mobilizes the military into blue states to force compliance.
Why dont you guys start your own " stop the steal"?
Just say that 20 million illegals voted for trump, Kamala won and all this is just big election fraud.Just wondering.
Why doesn’t biden commit some “official acts”
He could. Totally legal thanks to the SCROTUS. But Dems are cowards by nature. They never would. Which is why this outcome was inevitable. If not now, later. We might actually end up being lucky it was Trump and not someone truly competent, but I doubt it.
I think Biden still believes that things can swing back in the midterms or next presidential election. I don’t think he realizes that this might have been the last election that was possible to win.
If he does something drastic, he’d probably hand even more popular support to the Republicans in general and to Trump in particular who would play victims as much as they could.
If he does nothing, it might be the end of democracy, not just in the US but in most of the world. But he will have “accepted defeat gracefully” and considering he won’t live to see the worst of it, I imagine that’s all that matters.
Edit: Just watched his speech. Nope, he thinks this is business as usual.
Probably less than he killed during the pandemic. Unless he uses nukes
The planner will never recover from his systematic sabotage of all efforts to save it. This is what scares me most. He lies through his teeth to make money, a lakey to soulless corporate mega entities and the entire human race will pay for this one man’s greed, long after he has died. Our kids will pay for his opulence and that to me is so sad.
Multiple regulatory bodies are going to get disbanded. The EPA is unlikely to survive, whole departments of the FDA are about to get gutted. Anything involving industrial safety is going to get its funding cut. Unconstitutional crackdowns on free and independent media is almost certain. Large scale damage to the functions of many government institutions can be expected. Massive economic damage due to reckless deregulation ( that’s even before they start putting tariffs on everything and wind up in multiple simultaneous trade wars). Funding for education and infrastructure maintenance will be reduced to allow tax cuts for the already wealthy. Massive loss of global influence and a massive gain in influence by hostile autocratic nations is also something you can expect.
I could go on and on but even if you were to assume they weren’t serious about project 2025 (if you haven’t read that you should) it’s real bad.
call me hopelessly naiive but just… why? the why is what i can never wrap my head around? why do they want to destroy the country? do they hate it? and like… why would people want to get rid of social security? do they just want people after 65 years old to… die? why?? i’m so sad…
Dictators only care about one thing: absolute power. They will destroy the country they take over to get that power and to keep it for as long as possible
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oh, you’re serious
Imagine basing your personality on a satire character and thinking you’re an independent thinker.
Read the comments and note the downvotes, sir. I’m definitely in the minority here. Therefore I would dare suggest it is in fact you who are the thoughtless parrot here. Governments are corrupt and incompetant organizations, and the bigger they become, the more corrupt and incompetant they are. If you truly are concerned that a single man can wreck such damage, you need to understand that is only possible because people like you have built up an organization that holds far too much power. The obvious solution is to shrink the scope of that organization so that a single maniac can’t do so much damage.
Big government is to blame for Trump having so much power. Learn, or be doomed to see history repeat itself.
Just because you say the sky is yellow, doesn’t mean you’re better for it.
If you shrink the government, corporations will just fill the power vacuum. It’s that simple.
Open your eyes. Corporations already heavily influence policy. Stop making that possible by decentralizing the power!
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If you’re a white Christian male you are the shit.
Anyone else is losing rights
Also Trump will declare martial law after 4 years with presidential immunity and every position of power stacked with handpicked loyalists.
Unless there is a revolution of some kind the US will probably go the path of Nazi Germany after Hitler achieved total control
white Christian males are also susceptible to measles and pollution and severe storms
Inb4 Trump’s Nazi base on Venus.
Who cares, it’s what they want and what they voted for, AGAIN. I’d be more concerned about the rest of the world. America can go off in a puff of smoke and it would be the best thing the ever did
Listen, I hate my country right now, and am disgusted by the people who live here…
That’s it, that’s the end of my sentence.
Except your trade would be hindered. Russia would plow through Europe. The power vacuum made by America “puffing up in smoke” would be so great and horrific it would probably overshadow WW2 total deaths.
Actually delusional
You must be a confused on what it is America does around here. Forget the public distractions of television and the political discourses.
Ask yourself a question, why isn’t Russia in Europe right now? Why are pirates not commandeering trade ships? Like it or not youre asking for your securities to be removed. Or wishing it.
The fact that Russia is struggling to sustain a war with a country with relatively weak military power, should indicate why your statements are delusional. That aside, the UK and France have nuclear power. Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and Italy have nuclear weapons sharing statues.
If we take away morality, and the fact that no one wants to have ww3, what makes you think they can do any real damage to Europe?
And the pirates comment is hilarious, when Europe has the UK and France.
You greatly overestimate what the USA does for Europe, and the impact then disappearing would have on the continent, across the entire ocean from them
Lmao these are their publicly stated goals, take your head out of the sand
The Rise of Trudeau
Lol wut? Is this a meme, or am I about to go down a rabbit hole?
Nah i was trying to make a jokes about the US leaving a vacuum
Lmao Texas, Florida and Arizona wouldn’t be able to handle the idea of that.
“UNITED STATES OF CANADA”
America was actually going to annex Canada at some point a while back too.
Slightly worse than with Harris. But the downward trend would never stop.
The Fifth Risk is a very good read for anyone who might be interested in a finer grained look into the lesser-known functions of our government 👍
We should remember that most Americans still live in blue states with sane governments. The federal government can’t just barge in and do whatever it wants, and if tries to do so, the social contract that binds the nation together is broken and secession becomes a real possibility. But that’s unlikely because Trump is far too clueless to know about any of the problems he’ll run into if he tries to implement any of his plans.
Which is fine for him because it was always a con anyway. He talks and acts out of his ass. What he will do is anyone’s guess, but it’ll at least be restrained by what’s realistically possible.
Federal laws trump state laws every time, those blue states will be just as shit as the red states in no time
My so called blue state of California just voted against minimum wage increase, against rent control, against banning slavery, and for increasing the war on drugs. At least this time we narrowly voted to approve gay marriage (unlike last time where we banned it)
The Federal government CAN just barge in. We specifically designed the structure that way. Federal supercedes state.
He will absolutely move the military into a blue state to force compliance. This is how the next civil war will start. Red Force and blue resistance.
I’d love be as optimistic as you but unless Trump changes his mind the US will get a brainwormed fanatical anti-vaccier in charge of deciding which vaccines are safe to use. Even if the states don’t cooperate with trump’s agenda there are so many long standing federal institutions which till now you’ve never needed to think about that are about to get wrecked.
And what about the ones, like me, in red states? How fucked are we? (I know the answer and hence drunk and high rn)
Realistically people should start to self sort and leftists should start to purchase and train with guns if they don’t have them for their family’s protection.
Join us in the PNW! We have legal weed!
And what about project 2025. That total teeheee not our plan teeheee thing …
The US is just as fucked as everything and everyone else, which is 100%
anywhere from not really, to literally world war 3.
trump is a loose cannon.
We do not win here.
Some of you people didn’t pay attention to the Congressional results and it shows.
What do you mean ? (The house is on track to be won by the gop. The senate is won by the gop. I just want to understand your point.)
“Not really” isn’t an option.
The question isn’t how fucked America is, that answer is some shade of “very.”
The question is who is going down with us.
Ha gotcha, thank you
It’s actually likely to be better as long as trump waddles on. He’s just so god damn bumbling that even with all the cards, he’ll find little ways to not get his shit done.
Mind you it won’t be enough, and it will be god damn fucking horrific. But decidedly less smooth while Narcissism Jones keeps grabby-handsing the wheel from his handlers and derailing his own goals.
Until they kill him or use the 25th amendment to install Vance. Now that he’s won, you think the people around the useful idiot who have accepted all the Russian money will just let him fuck their plans up?
It’s a double-edged sword, even for the GOP. Trump’s followers are a cult, and cultists follow one person. So without Trump as the godhead, there’s no one with enough (ugh) charisma and panache to unify the GOP rabble.
Burning the witches is WAY more important than who tells them they’re allowed to burn the witches.
When they lose their “imperfect messenger from God” they’ll just follow who their pastors tell them to follow. Maybe they’ll change the name to the Trump Party and any nazi Christian soldier can lead it. Bible-banger Vance is lined up as the successor atm, but who knows? Could be Desantis. Could be Bannon. Anyone tapped who’s willing to act out that vindictive certainty, solidarity and ferocity that Trump performs so well can do the job for them.
Maybe one of his kids. If the fundie leaders want to be truly perverse (and we know they do), they’ll choose Ivanka and call it feminism.
source: grew up in a bog-standard xtian cult village in North America. I know these Good Folk, and the Sharia Law-type plans they have for women. The death of Grab-Her-By-The-Pussy will just be a chance to deify him further.
The right wing always galvanizes behind someone new if it means they get to hurt their enemies.
Sure, but understand basic Followership: a cultist will allow any action, any cut, so long as they believe it ingratiates them with their Leader.
No culthead, no cult following. The GOP reverts to a mob.
Until a new strongman pops up. I’ve been watching this movie for 30+ years.
They’re not going to seize power and then fuck it up. Project 2025 will go forward. There is structure behind this movement. I’d like to believe that Trump dying or going away would fix the problem too, but it won’t.
You might be right. I’ve also been watching this debacle for 30 years, so I can’t say you’re wrong, but I am hoping the high level marionettes die off (as so many are incredibly old) before the new crop of would-be-Confederates has a chance to reorganize.
Of course, the Dems would assuredly bungle that opportunity as well, since I have been watching this play out, act after act.
Joe Rogan, Aiden Ross, Theo Von, Andrew Tate, etc. will have Gen Z men in lockstep with whoever rises to the top of the shit pile. It’s like Rush Limbaugh on steroids. Coordinated, algorithm driven, and a pipeline ready to take any young man without critical thinking skills down the slippery slope to the alt-right.
That’s what scares me the most and feels different about all of this.
I was worried Bush 2 would cancel elections to continue presiding over his War on Terror. This feels so much worse.
He seems to lack competence in many ways, but some of the guys around him are a whole lot more conniving and potentially effective.
It’s also not likely Trump feels any urge to hire a somewhat moderate(ish) cabinet of professionalls like he did last time. I assume he learned his lesson given that they all eventually turned on him.
So let’s see. I think he’s spent the past 4 years surrounding himself with some bad hombres, to borrow a saying, and now he’s ready to act with fewer guardrails.
