• Anonymousllama@lemmy.world
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    The best part is the end result, not where the data comes from. Tired of hearing about AI models “stealing” data. I put all my art, designs and code online and assume it’ll be used to train models (which I’ll be able to use later on)

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      You’re fine with a corporation making money off your copyrighted work? Without seeing a cent of it?

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        Why not? Same as a person being inspired to reuse certain aspects. Artists reuse other artists work constantly and usually more blatantly than what AI does.

        I wouldn’t want to copyright every visual pattern conceivable, everything would be a copyright violation of some sort.

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            I have a masters degree in AI and have worked with it in commercial applicstion for last 7 years and there’s nothing wrong with what he said.

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            What? That’s literally how it works, a neural network makes connections based on patterns it sees across all of the samples it has. This is how it works for biological neurons and it’s how it works for artificial neurons. Are you stealing everyone else’s rightful property when you draw a character in an anime artstyle? Because that entirely came from neural connections formed from you viewing other peoples’ art. What you created is not “original”, it is formed entirely based off of patterns you obtained from other things and mixed together. With the added bonus of you having an actual stored memory of other peoples’ art that your brain used to form those connections, so you tend to make it even more similar to already existing art than you realize.

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            I actually do work with AI but whatever, if you have something specific you’d like to argue go for it. Otherwise let’s not get into a pissing contest over credentials

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            Care to elaborate? Nothing is technically wrong with what he said

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          Disney doesn’t agree

          Now I’m pretty sure they won’t see a conflict of interest in not using their IP to train AI but advocating for your data for training.

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            The inverse is also true. Disney will make their own AI regardless of being able to use anyone else’s data for training. Because they have a ton of data already. The only ones that will be shafted if that freedom is restricted is that those without a library of data to train will have no access to AI.

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        So long as it’s correctly attributed it’s no more immoral than what a corpo inherently does.

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      I interpreted this less as being about art models and more about predictive models trained off of data with racial prejudice (i.e. crime prediction models trained off of old police data)

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      You’re putting your stuff out there so some cryptobro cracker can steal it, claim credit for it, and then call you a peasant for helping him make it.