• papabobolious
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    5 months ago

    Yeah I have actually been kind of baffled no one else mentioned these, are conventional engine heaters not a thing outside scandinavia?

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      5 months ago

      Are engine block heaters being confused for pre-heating the cabin? Because we have block heaters too.

        • limelight79@lemm.ee
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          5 months ago

          A few years ago, Ford was offering an optional electric heating element in the cabin heater of their pickups, because it would warm up much faster than the coolant would (especially if it has a diesel). I wonder if they still do that, because it seems like a nice touch and something that could be used this way, too. (I haven’t watched the video.)

    • drhugsymcfur@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Idk how engine heaters in Scandinavia work, but in North America they only heat the oil pan. So your oil won’t be too thick when you start your engine, but it wont heat your cabin.

      For that we would need to buy a shore power coolant pump/heater. Which exists but the extra 1000 dollar price doesn’t lend itself to popularity.

      • bluewing@lemm.ee
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        5 months ago

        You can get in engine block heaters that heat the water jacket of the engine in the US and Canada. Or you can get an in-line coolant heater also. I haven’t seen a oil pan heater in 40 years. They aren’t really a need anymore with 0-30W engine oils anymore.

        A block heater will set you back about $120US installed at your local repair station. The in-line coolant heater is some cheaper being only about $75US installed. They both work off of common 115/120V/15A power. No fixed install required for either. At worst you will need to buy an extension cord of the proper gauge. Maybe another $50US. This is well below the costs you cite.

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            5 months ago

            Just go to your local auto parts store and ask for one. They will hook you up.

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      5 months ago

      They are. It’s just most urban people don’t bother with them anymore because the electronic ignitions and fuel injectors make ICE engines very reliable starters even in quite cold weather. My, now eight year old vehicles, still start reliably at -40F even parked outside because I know I will be faced with those temperatures every year and I keep them well repaired to handle that.

      Mostly you will see block heaters on diesels and older unreliable cars. And yes, they do work very well and are a cheap insurance policy for getting your car started.

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      5 months ago

      Besides diesels, they’re almost unheard of in the US. At least in the continental states; they might have them in the nastier parts of Alaska. Even there, a lot of the places where people actually live don’t get that cold. Anchorage has an average low of -10C in January, which is cold, but not crazy cold.

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        5 months ago

        Ah OK, I would have expected it to be quite a lot colder than that.