Librarians in public schools in Charlotte County, Florida, were instructed by the school district superintendent to remove all books with LGBTQ characters or themes from school and classroom libraries. The guidance by Charlotte County Superintendent Mark Vianello and the school board’s attorney, Michael McKinley, was obtained by the Florida Freedom to Read Project (FFTRP) through a public records request and shared with Popular Information. FFTRP requested “electronic records of district and school decisions regarding classroom and library materials.” In response, FFTRP received a document memorializing a July 24 conversation between Vianello and district librarians, known in Florida as media specialists.

  • lettruthout@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    119
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    So taking away those books is supposed to stop all kids from turning gay?
    Why haven’t all the thousands of straight character books turned gay kids straight?

    Enough of this stupidity.

    • Neato@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      99
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      Nah. It’s supposed to make all LGBTQ+ kids feel like they are alone and that something is wrong with them so they hide who they are and are easier for others to manipulate.

      • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        9 months ago

        There’s an even more sinister intention behind making queer children think they are alone and teaching them that they are fundamentally broken and that no one will ever accept them for who they are.

    • jasondj@ttrpg.network
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      9 months ago

      If you find yourself googling art from YA fiction, you’ll soon realize that the straight characters have a better chance of turning the gay kids gayer.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      9 months ago

      I’d guess the district is practicing CYA given all the fucked up legislation Desantis is signing into law. School admins are notorious cowards.

    • bobman@unilem.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      9 months ago

      Maybe the idea is to stop some kids from realizing or accepting they’re gay.

    • callouscomic@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      9 months ago

      And they probably think back when the majority of people through history were illiterate, there must have been absolutely zero chance of LGBTQ+ people.

  • Kandorr@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    91
    ·
    9 months ago

    Is the goal to create places so inhospitable to open minds, that those who possess a shred of empathy flee, creating a conservative gravity well of votes? Is that even sustainable

    • NegativeInf@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      49
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      I don’t know whether to be appalled or hope that the gravity well becomes large enough it generates an event horizon that no stupidity could cross out of.

      • Jaysyn@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        I have a high school age kid in rural FL. If that is the intended effect, it’s not working.

        • Bibliotectress@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          9 months ago

          I work at a high school (in a library, actually) in California, and we’ve had student walkouts for much less. Are the angry students doing any major protesting that you’ve seen? Or are the schools cracking down so hard already and they don’t want to risk it, or a high enough percentage of kids are assholes so they mock kids who care and it keeps those kids from protesting? I’m sure there’s a lot happening that we don’t hear about, so I’m curious what it’s like for Gen Z who overall doesn’t seem to stand for bigotry in general.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      That’s half the goal.

      The other half is to make areas so hostile that the people who can’t flee just keep their heads down and stay closeted so no one hurts them.

      And to increase suicides

    • I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      9 months ago

      21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

      22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

      23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.

      24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

      Uh oh! Ham and woke Noah better not be in any elementary schools teaching kids about drunk gay incestuous nudity.

      • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        9 months ago

        Genesis 19:

        4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

        There’s a whole town of gays in this book!

  • alekwithak@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    39
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    Please support Foundation 451 and consider donating. It is a Florida teacher-led organization that has already provided thousands of banned books to Florida students and is opening up banned book libraries all over the state.

    • bobman@unilem.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      18
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      Meh. Teachers should just lead themselves to different states and let the effects take care of florida.

      If they want to be a bunch of uneducated slaves, go right ahead.

      • alekwithak@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        9 months ago

        Do you have any idea what teachers in Florida make? That aside, pushing all the good teachers out of the state is exactly what DeSantis wants. They’ve drastically lowered the qualifications necessary to be a teacher. You seem to understand why. Why do you think they’ll stop with Florida.

        • creamed_eels@toast.ooo
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          9 months ago

          The republican long game is to make public education so terrible and underfunded the next step is to abolish it. Then it’s expensive private Christian schools for those that can afford it, which is less and less each year, and sotdrt for the rest, which has very little to no oversight depending on what state you live in. Then straight from “graduation” to for-profit prisons, the military, or wage-slaving to make billionaires richer.

          • GlendatheGayWitch@lib.lgbt
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            9 months ago

            Cruz seems to be hopeful that segregation (oops I mean school choice) will be allowed back in schools in the next couple years

        • bobman@unilem.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          9 months ago

          Why do you think they’ll stop with Florida.

          Because other places will have learned from florida’s mistakes, and they’ll be better educated.

  • febra@lemmy.world
    cake
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    37
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    Fascism. In 1935 the nazis were burning books. Nowadays they banish them from the public. Same ideology. Fascism always stays the same

    • winterayars@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      9 months ago

      The Nazis started with books about “sexual deviance”, specifically they started with the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft. That’s where that one famous picture of them comes from.

      They started with gay and trans people, same as here.

  • SeaJ@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    36
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    9 months ago

    The fact that they are not taking out books with heterosexual characters as well shows this is only about bigotry.

  • _number8_@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    31
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 months ago

    can somebody actually do something about the continually encroaching evil? i feel like you shouldn’t be able to demand that

    • darq@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      Mass organisation would work. Protests and strikes. Not just from LGBT+ people, but from the population broadly. But that seems unlikely, sadly.

    • winterayars@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      9 months ago

      The only person you can rely on to stop them is yourself first, then second everyone else.

      Start by killing the Nazi in your own head, to paraphrase a slogan. Then oppose them and find others to oppose them.

      Only one thing could have broken our movement — if the adversary had understood its principle and from the first day had smashed, with the most extreme brutality, the nucleus of our new movement.

      A paraphrase/translation from Hitler.

      Understand them. Do not mistake their intentions. Do not think they only want what they say they want or that they will only use their current methods to get it. They want genocide and they’ll use whatever means they think they can get away with to get it.

      That means opposing them at every turn everywhere you see them in your own life and encouraging others to do the same

      I also think Hitler suffered from a lack of imagination. It’s not only crushing their movement that will stop them, though that is vital. In the long term, and we may still be at a moment where we can worry about the long term, building a world that takes their power away is also a solution. Even better is building a world where they couldn’t take power to begin with.

      Build a world where LGBT people are not an easy target and the fascists will stop having them to be an easy (first) target. Build a world where low grade scam artists like Desantis can’t take over a state and it’ll make the next Desantis have to do that much more work. (Admittedly that probably does require abandoning our current democracy…)

  • RubberStuntBaby@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    Republicans are afraid that LGBTQ characters will humanize LGBTQ people and children might learn to empathize with them, which would reduce bigotry against them.

  • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    9 months ago

    I’d take out all the books that have any characters that don’t mention their sexuality and say that I’m protecting kids because Huck Finn could be gay.

  • Nipplecreek@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 months ago

    Damn. Republicans really are fascist. As if we didn’t know already but God damn.

    • nybble41@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      9 months ago

      Allegories aside, the Bible definitely has a few LGBTQ characters, even if they’re not portrayed in a very positive light. I suppose that means they’ll be banning the Bible from school libraries? Not to mention a fair amount of historical literature… including anything featuring Leonardo da Vinci, Florence Nightingale, King James (yes, that King James), William Shakespeare, King Richard I, or Julius Caesar.

      It will be interesting to see whether this makes the history classes easier, for lack of material to cover, or harder, for lack of references.

      • VintageTech@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        9 months ago

        Isn’t Joseph’s pronoun in Hebrew she/her? Hence the perfume cart and the shocking response from pharoahs wife once “he” was naked?