First of all, I don’t mean this post as a complaint, maybe more of a warning?
There is teenagers on the fediverse. Most of them don’t share their age, for hopefully obvious reasons. I’d say that a lot of the accounts which do a lot of posting/commenting are run by teenagers — because most adults probably wouldn’t have the time for that much posting.
While the young people of this generation are generally useless when it comes to something more complicated than microsoft word, the people who are good at technology, usually are very good at it.
most of my friends (most of which don’t know the difference between a laptop and a desktop) could understand the fediverse as a concept perfectly when I explained it to them irl.
So, if you’re in a really stupid argument with someone, try to remember that there is a small chance they are 14.
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Some are easy to spot because they don’t understand that being apologetic has little to do with apologizing, for example. 😅
I was smarter than the rest of you all when I was a teen. It wasn’t until I became an adult did I get this stupid.
Hey, fuck you for calling adults stupid. Some of us have been stupid the whole time!
No, we’ve definitely gotten dumber as time has gone on. Especially socially; interpersonal skills have basically vanished since I was in high school.
Maybe, but I was on the internet as a teen and that went fine, being careful is a general thing in life.
But more importantly: adults have a phone and use it during work ALL the time. So I’m not so sure about the average age of the people commenting on here.
Surprise, surprise. Some chunk of Reddit annoyances stem from kids running around amok.
Then moderators make many stupid rules to try to increase quality and overmoderation takes hold
In short time it becomes increasingly annoying to browse let alone post to get past the anti teen rules filter. Not to mention all the young hormones commenting some stuff at you like it is school break slander or smh
One can always change instance though so it isn’t doom and gloom. The kids will have Lemmy.world and nice, enjoy it and have fun. It is the club penguin of Lemmy instances. We knew this would happen
Then moderators make many stupid rules to try to increase quality and overmoderation takes hold
This is so true. One of the best decisions I made during my tenure as mod of /r/StarTrek was changing the rules to be spirt-based instead of language-based. People will literally try to lawyer their way around the language of any rule, and it gets exhausting for mods to get drawn into debates when it’s obvious the person is trying to get around the spirit of the community’s purpose.
For example we had a rule that was literally just “be nice” (vs what a lot of communities have which is “don’t be uncivil” followed by a 1000 item list of uncivil things that nobody will read and only exists for mods to point to after the fact). We got a lot of pushback like “who decides what being nice means?” (to which I would reply "if you truly don’t know what ‘nice’ means then you need to ask your mother) but if someone is ““concerned”” about a rule to “be nice” or “honest”, they are probably not someone that needs to be around anyway. It’s a discussion community, not civil society, not everyone has a right to participate.
As you said the beauty of the fediverse is that each instance can have it’s own styles.
Great comment, great moderation. Also by the way it has come to my attention that your instance bans/warns users that merely upvote discovery hate posts? Or was it some other Star Trek instance?
I don’t think all, or even most, of the low quality content comes from kids.
*Are. Not trying to be a jerk if English isn’t your first language. Teenagers is a plural noun.
English is my first language, I have no excuse.
It should not be that surprising. Many teenagers are really smart, curious and will find their way here. That said I realise your warning is well intentioned; I hope Lemmy remains a more civil place than Reddit became over the last ten years, for everyone; teenagers included.
Odd post, but checks out
But don’t assume everyone who is very active is a teenagers.
Some of us aren’t ;).
And you don’t have to understand federation to use lemmy. I’ve brought a couple of gen-z ers here. Get them to download voyager. Voyger automatically suggests lemm.ee for account creation. And then you just use it like reddit. Super simple.
I don’t assume all of them are.
Knowing a couple of the most active accounts. None of them are teenagers, in all cases middle aged men.
Listen teens, I’m 40. I was a niteclub bouncer in a town popular with backpackers and partying, I also did a lot of traveling and partying. I was shameless, its a miracle it didnt fall off.
When you say you fucked my mom, its childish and stupid. When I say I fucked your mom while its not likely its possible… and thats worse.
Thats usually said by people in the 9 - 13 age group now.
Most of us would post on forums as teens back in the day, so it’s hypocritical to try to keep them from doing it too. The only places we should run them off would be communities we specifically make for adults. They don’t necessarily have to be NSFW. Sometimes it’s just nice to have a community where everyone is old enough that they get the same references and are in similar stages in life.
General music and hobby related communities really shouldn’t be blocked off, though.
A friend and I just yesterday talked about that and how we both visited some random sites/communities back then. How we had ICQ Chats with adults as 13-somethings, phone calls, about the blogosphere, how some Internet friends asked whether you needed something and send it on a disc via Mail.
I suppose if I were a teenager again, I would be here too.
we would not stop from accessing adult stuff, if we wanted to. so trying to hard prevent them now would be hypocritical too imo. it is our job as parents to prepare them as good as we can.
I mean, as a teenager, if a community says in the rules that its for adults only, I’d avoid it.
Honestly I think that’s unusual for a teenager
I don’t think so.
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14 going on 40 so it will be some spirited ebeef. No quarter will be given
Play with fire, get burned.
If you can’t take it, get the fuck out.
This is actually a good thing - teenagers are known to bring niche things into popular culture! For some reason the whole of society kind of cares what they think is cool
It’s just so tiring to discuss something like politics with someone who is literally 12.
I agree. Discussing politics should require some form of age verification! Reading the myopic takes are enough torture on their own, let alone having to contend with them.
(Yes, this is hyperbole. If y’all come for me I’ll laugh really hard at you.)
Most free time, rich teens spending their parents money drive our trends probably , not even probably thats most influencers, like alix earle , its funny af that all the girls ik that repost eat the rich and shit follow her and taylor swift
WARNING To the People of Earth: Teenagers exist. BEWARE
I actually do appreciate this reminder
Pretty much yeah, most people assume that no one under 30 is on fedi because its “hard” to use.
Is this the popular assumption?
I’m 19 and assumed that there are at least a few. And with that I’m correct.
You are.
I’m 24 and I’m using it just fine. I’d say that after signing up somewhere and getting an app to login into, the rest is pretty simple and much similar to reddit
With lemmy? definitely! On the mastodon side of things? no. Mastodon seems to be for german middle aged bikers now.
Oh boy, I should get on Mastodon!
You should also check sharkey! calckey.world
Invite only instances are even worse because of constant fear of banhammer treatment for wrongthink and then making second account is kinda hard
Well, I don’t know. Mastodon seems fine to me too
How is Mastodon harder? (Legit question, not snark)
There is more missing replies/reactions, and picking an instance is a bit harder imo. Also search is completely broken.
18 here started when I was 17
What part of the fediverse is “hard” to use?
Lemmy is easier to use than the UBB forum I started to become active on at the age of 10 that was the entry point for me being on the Internet at all. Back then we didn’t have Markdown, but BBCode, and I had that figured out after a few weeks.
I think you’re way underestimating young people.
Truly hard to use I’d say are hubzilla and its forks. The rest of the Fediverse doesn’t require much knowledge and aren’t as hard as their userbases pretend they are (they aren’t even hard at all)
I started to think it’s because of the result from years of a lot of people being trained and marinated by big tech in siloed opaque social media and website sign ups, where everything is it’s own thing with almost no interconnectedness and communication between each other. So it seems hard when they (me too admittedly) see all this instance thing and federated that.
Also IMO fediverse has a too nerdy and being infodumped on image to me. That image, at least on the threadiverse side, seems to be toned down and normie-d with recent “campaigns” on reddit though.
You guys really do need to not be too nerdy lol.
I’m old. I’m not sure what part of lemmy is hard. It’s just sign up, click a few things, download an app if you want. I don’t even have to remember a password. You don’t have to know how to build a car in order to drive.
Yes, noticed the influx of youngsters recently in the daily posts of ‘how come my boyfriend won’t talk to me’, ‘why are the girls at school so jealous of me’, etc. Also, putting 19/f in the post. What’s that about?
I’m also old and I really don’t know what’s going on. You’re mostly right, I’m here reading stuff and it’s working fine for me, but when it comes to federated instances and mastodons, I’m not sure I’ll ever really understand what this IS
I am a young person. It made sense once i explained it to them, but they had no idea how to do anything without my help, at first.
The assumptions that people make about age boggle my mind. You know that the people who made the internet are all “old” now, right?
Yeah, though most people severely underestimate, or overestimate the internets age.
Fedi does screw heavy middle aged and male and US but any one who can handle Linux can figure our how to operate here haha
Yeah kids might be retarded tech wise now but there is always the nerds who excel at tech so they would naturally end up here
Just a heads up, thats considered a slur.
Also, you’re forgetting the germans! Fedi seems really popular there.
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Careful there, there are boomers on lemmy
Start making the list, all of them are going to a FEMA camp staffed by Obama death panels just like fox news promised in 2012!
Do you mean skew?
There are* teenagers
shut up nerd
I also like that phrase. I wish I could say it more often in jest without getting slaughtered for it. Lol
