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Let’s discuss the Pokémon series. What is your favorite game in the series? What do you like about it? What doesn’t work for you? Are there similar games you like or even prefer to the original series? Feel free to share anything that comes up and react to other comments. Let’s get the conversation going!

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  • missingno@fedia.io
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    • RGBY - You had to be there. By today’s standards, these games are incredibly dated, to a point where it’s hard to explain to anyone who didn’t grow up on them why they were so magical. Despite feeling aged now, they honestly were ahead of their time in several ways, and there’s a reason these games took off and became such a massive cultural phenomenon that dominated the late 90s.

    • GSC - In comparison, it’s honestly surprising to me how well GSC still holds up after all these years. The sequel carries forward the magic of the first games, while polishing and improving the formula in every way. Being able to revisit Kanto for the postgame was the coolest thing ever, and it’s sad that we’ll never see anything like this again.

    • RSE - I will forever be a Hoenn hater. Coming off the heels of GSC, these games were just a massive step back in many ways. One region and 202 Pokemon. Weirdly unbalanced with the excessive amount of Water-types, and tedious amount of Surfing. Began the trend of Legendaries becoming more and more god-like, and forced in the story. Not a fan of the art style or trumpet-heavy OST either. Only good thing this game brought to the table was Abilities.
      One thing I don’t think a lot of people today remember is that this was Dexit before Dexit. When RS first launched, you only had 202 Pokemon in the Hoenn Dex, a step back from GSC’s 251, and the missing 184 species were not mentioned or referenced at all. At the time, I thought that they had been retconned out! Eventually, linking to later gen III games would unlock the National Pokedex, but at launch no one knew that was going to be a thing. And it was still fairly wack how many games they spread it out over, gen III as a whole was a mess.

    • FRLG - RGBY minus the soul. It may be more modernized, but it just doesn’t hit the same. I know this is very much a “you had to be there” take.

    • Colosseum - Painfully slow. Never finished it. Never played XD either.

    • DPPt - These games were just… bland. There’s not much I can actively hate on as much as RSE beyond just how slow they were, but there’s also not much that stands out either. I don’t have much to say.

    • HGSS - IT’S PEAK. Does a much better job than FRLG of feeling faithful yet modern. And the sheer amount of bonus content they added in was incredible. By far the best game in the series, nothing else is even close.

    • BW - Gen V really had a hell of a vibe to it, this era felt like Game Freak really wanted to experiment and it paid off. I give this game a lot of credit for being the first and only entry to have a good plot. However I do feel that the gimmick of new species only wasn’t so great, dragged down by the fact that half the Unova Dex is blatant copies of existing Gen I mons. Why bother doing that?

    • BW2 - However, this game’s story was so bad that I stand by my conspiracy theory of it being a last-minute rewrite from a planned Gray. I wonder what that would’ve looked like. Other than that though, everything else about BW2 was quite strong.

    • XY - The jump to 3D was rough, but could’ve been a lot worse. These games honestly feel like an unfinished beta to me, there’s a really good game in here somewhere but it’s dragged down by performance woes and very very little content. With more time in the oven, I think Z could’ve been one of the best games in the series, but they never gave this game the Director’s Cut it needed.

    • SM - Since XY’s framerate was so troublesome, let’s make it worse by adding more models onscreen! Also, let’s drop XY’s best feature, the Player Search System, in favor of doing almost nothing on the bottom screen! People really liked Megas, so let’s replace those with attacks that just do big damage and call it a day! And let’s really go way overboard with the cutscenes, tons of long tedious cutscenes! Most of all it was the framerate that really pissed me off. This was actually the first time I bothered finishing the Regional Dex, but I was too fed up with the framerate that I decided I would wait until the next generation on new hardware to try for National…

    And so that ended up being the last game I played. Skipped USUM because I didn’t want to deal with this engine any longer, and then SS… Seeing how they’d just been cutting more and more corners with each game, I simply saw Dexit as the last straw. Maybe I’d have been willing to accept it if they’d actually been bringing new things to the table to compensate, but they don’t. I’ve come to terms with the fact that the Pokemon that I know and love, the Pokemon that I grew up on, the Pokemon that I named my account after, is dead to me.

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        Shouldn’t be very hard to figure out from looking at a list of Pokémon games. RGBY = Red, Green, Blue, Yellow; GSC = Gold, Silver, Crystal; RSE = Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald; DPPt = Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, etc. etc.

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      I agree with literally every point you’ve made (especially the ‘had to be there’ notes, it’s so hard trying to explain that) but one.

      Here comes a billion words on how I love Sun and Moon. Feel free to skip them, I’m just trying to add to the conversation.

      Sun and Moon is on my list of faves because of the slow island vibes, the sun and moon motif… Oh. Let me take a moment and say, as a grass type trainer, I have gotten absolutely effed with starter choices. I love plants, I love flowers, and… It’s insane how often the grass-type starter is the weakest in design. So let me say when Rowlet hit the scene, I fell in love. This precious little floof who turns his head all the way around to look at me in battle, and then turns into a moody teenager when he becomes Datrix (if you’re petting him after battle, and you touch the feather in front of his face he gets so MAD!), finally turning into the extremely badass Decidueye? Grass/Ghost? Hell. Yes. After watching water and fire get bangers of starters for ages, only occasionally getting a starter that felt like it was “good enough” rarely, finally getting my owl was like a sword-in-the-stone moment.

      I hear you on Z-Moves but I do really love the idea of doing a little Hawaiian-style dance with your Pokemon to power them up. It feels more like I’m contributing than pointing a rock at something. I actually enjoy that some of the dances look really stupid because you have to ask yourself, “Do I want to look cool right now, or do I want to look a little silly and absolutely destroy my enemies?” There’s also something excellent in facing a friend in battle, and watching them choose to do a dumb pose with mounting horror. “Hahaha, Chris is doing a dance and the background is pink and oh god no he’s chosen to destroy me.

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      Great writeup. In retrospect it’s absolutely insane how many series-defining features were introduced in Gen 2. That kind of generational leap is mindboggling.

      I love your username btw, brings me back to the schoolyard, to Kangaskhans with Fly and rumours of finding Mew under the truck in Vermilion.