• OlgaAbi@lemmy.ml
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    13 hours ago

    that’s why unregulated capitalism (like in amcapistan or a minarchy) would be better, unions would actually be as powerfull as corporations

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      7 hours ago

      Capitalism can’t function without a State, in a “minarchist” or “ancap” situation there would be some intermediary group with a monopoly on violence to suppress workers and hash out deals between business owners. Moreover, we exist in a world largely dominated by US Imperialism, we can’t just swap to minarchism or ancapism by gathering the infinity stones.

      Whatever system we transition to must come from where it once was, even revolutionary societies have to deal with the holdovers from the previous Mode of Production. That’s why the Soviets had the NEP, in fact, they couldn’t just snap their fingers and institute what they wanted. It was a big deal when they managed to collectivize.

      How do you personally reckon we can make it to your prefered organization of society, from where we are now? Genuinely curious.

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        … Whatever system we transition to must come from where it once was, even revolutionary societies have to deal with the holdovers from the previous Mode of Production…

        Which is why the funniest thing in this comic strip is a human trying to explain economics to clotheless aliens without appearing to know even an iota of their economics, or whatever system do they have / had in their society.

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          Yep, I actually made a top level comment explaining as such. I’m not a Posadist nor a Trotskyist, but it is generally correct that any alien species that has managed to develop complex space travel will have had to go through similar phases in Mode of Production.

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      Not by a long shot. Remove the guardrails and the (theoretically) neutral party that enforces them, the state, and violence abounds. Whoever has more guns will call the shots. After enough time and consolidation, any big group will become its own state. If you don’t think that’d happen, just take a look at EVE Online and how the biggest player run corps work.

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      No lol, the factory owner would just pay his private security a premium to kick your fucking teeth in if you don’t work. You actually think unregulated capitalism is BETTER???

      The whole point of a state is to mitigate the worst of class conflict, remove that and the class with greater resources (the one ruling before the removal of the state) wins the conflict.

      The removal of a state doesn’t make unions more powerful it makes the owning class more able to destroy them. An anarcho-capitalist experiment either ends in slavery or revolution.

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        No, no, the Prophetess Rand foretold what would happen! The rich would just lock themselves away in their golden city and the poor outside the gates would starve!

        … As yet, though, no word one who’s washing their dishes or making their clothes…

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      Uh huh. And how would you guarantee it stays freely unregulated by any one party. With a regulator perhaps?

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        7 hours ago

        I’m more partial towards Syndicalism of all of the Anarchist strains, for sure, as a Marxist. Even used to consider myself one.