Rust lobbyists winning

  • neo [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    6 days ago

    Most C++ programmers don’t actually understand lifetimes or even basic memory safety.

    Fingers crossed I get this job I’m applying for where they actually care about this.

        • toys_are_back_in_town [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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          5 days ago

          I interpreted your comment as being dismissive of understanding basic memory safety because no jobs care about this.

          I thought it ridiculous that people don’t care that their programs explode. I guess it changes your mindset when your service going down isn’t a matter of costing the company money, but affecting real people.

          But maybe you weren’t being sarcastic?

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            5 days ago

            I was being serious. I offhandedly expressed some excitement, in a comment I forgot I even wrote, about interviewing at a place that writes modern c++. Which, if you don’t know, c++11 and especially beyond has features to manage lifetimes, ownership, memory, and other important things just as Rust does (but it’s still C++, so of course it has all the baggage C++ must carry and a compiler that doesn’t enforce any of this).

            But you rushed at the opportunity to be a complete ass about it and insult me for no reason. Presumably you also dismissively assumed I’ve never written Rust. Or that in 2024 the Rust jobs are so overflowing that I can just take my pick at one at my own leisure. As if my first preference is to write software in a language that still requires forward declarations.

            Yeah. You had such a good point, though. I really would rather not have an income in favor of writing perfectly memory safe software that nobody uses. Surely you have advice on that?

            • toys_are_back_in_town [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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              5 days ago

              Sorry about the friendly fire then, I guess. You seem to realize that in C++ you still have to think about lifetimes, only the compiler doesn’t really hold your hand. I thought you were the ASSHOLE who dismissively declared that Rust programmers don’t know how to write a linked list, without realizing that the problem is that C++ programmers usually don’t know how to write C++ either. And that’s why everything is on fire.

              But you had to make more presumptions about my assumptions, and throw in a “nobody uses” because you genuinely have no idea how much my software is used, lol. So long as it keeps humming along you’ll never have to.