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Yeah it seems like everything is the exact same crappy jellybean off the shelf mouse put into different cases. Even the sensors in the high end vertical mouses like the MX master are only as good as just a regular desktop mouse.
Seems like capitalism just hasn’t made this market yet. Maybe in a few years when gamers start getting older.
Thanks for looking, but yeah these aren’t quite what I’m looking for. They’ve got the gamer lights and buttons, but the sensors in these are all the same as super cheapo scam gaming mouses that you might see at the checkout at Canadian Tire or flooding Amazon, but they’re generally pretty bad to use. Like they lose tracking or “drop frames” and just aren’t as smooth to use as an actual nice gaming mouse.