• wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
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    Debian. Vista. And somewhere around Snow Leopard, though I stopped getting upgrades around that time so fuck you apple.

    These are the selections of the peak power user, and they shall not be questioned, as the punishment is using Windows 8 for a month, followed by death, which will be merciful after that month.

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    One can like multiple distros. e.g. i run Debian on my media center because i have no need for bleeding edge software and want just a stable system that changes as rarely as possible and only receives security patches. Its a perfect OS for shit that just needs to be setup once and then runs in that configuration forever.

    If you try that with e.g. Arch, it is very possible that after a week you have suddenly a different theme installed for your frontend and your plugins stopped working.

    For my webservers i tend more to ubuntu because of newer packages as Debian but being still relative stable in terms of versions. (but looking into others. i’m just an lazy fuck right now)

    And on my desktop system i run Arch because i like to have the newest shit for gaming and i like some of the design decisions the dev made like the early merge of /bin.

    And on some of my ancient android phones i got Alpine to run very nicely in a chroot. Primarily because it is very very lightweight / compact and uses OpenRC as init system because Systemd gets very pissy when its not running as PID 1 / detecting it is in a chroot and then refuses to start services (there are hackarounds, but why bother?)

    And then there is of course things like Raspian, etc.

    Use the right tool for the job.

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    The one asks how to do something. The other gives 13 steps of instructions. The 14th step is “??? I don’t know. This is where I got stuck too in the same way as OP.”

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      Debian is a joke, it is so far out of date it is unusable for anything except cave-painting or maybe a stone circle.

      Ubuntu is way better.

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        As a Debian user (for two servers) and a Kubuntu user (because literally nothing else that ships with KDE supports my machine’s 5G modem), I’m sorry but I’m going to have to kill you. Nothing personal, you see, but we’ve had a vote and well, it was quite strongly in favor for your demise due to the statements you’ve made.

        Terribly sorry about this. bang

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    I feel like most everyone* who cares about distros likes Debian. It may not be the right distro for your use case, but you’re glad it’s around.

    * I’m sure even Debian has it’s haters. But I think it’s a minority.

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      Debian is independent, OG, a base of so many distros, it is objectively the most stable Linux in existence, it has its own libre kernel…what’s not to love?

      Ah, right.

      systemd.

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      I don’t really like debian. I can respect it as a good distro that’s based and all, but It doesn’t fit my use case of ‘just works’ the same way my steamdeck does (in regards to gaming and Windows similarly). For that I’ve found Bazzite or Kubuntu for their usage of KDE. (also manjaro was buggy 🤷‍♀️)

      I still can’t decide if I want to use Arch based to be similar to my SteamDeck, or Ubuntu based because dealing with packages is confusing.

      However I have semi-given up on Linux for my desktop PC because Nvidia sucks and I’ll try again on my semi-anually “ooo let’s try Linux again!” after Microsoft makes another dumb change. I’m gonna stick with it one day lol

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        Bazzite (fedora based) is actually more like steamOS than Arch is like steamOS, as both Bazzite and steamOS are immutable. I love Bazzite/Aurora/Bluefin because they have the option to include Nvidia drivers preconfigured out of the box. There have been some improvements in KDE for NVIDIA recently, so maybe check it out. One quick question, why is dealing with packages a pro point for Ubuntu?

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          That might just be your GPU. If you’ve tried different distros and had issues on others then you’re probably right but different Nvidia GPUs can have varying success. I use two machines with different Nvidia GPUs (both running endeavourOS) and one needs drivers from flatpak to play games at more than ~20fps.

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            I’ve successfully used a 1050 Ti and a 3060 Ti with Linux Mint and the proprietary drivers (selected through the GUI driver manager). So if anyone reading this is in a similar situation it might be worth it to try that.

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      I use it because it feels like the most Linux-ey of Linuxes (Linuxii??). I don’t know how else to describe it. It’s like, no bullshit, just Linux. Here’s the Lego pieces, go have fun.

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        As a long-time Debian user, I’d have to throw my vote behind Slackware for the title of most UNIX-y, which is I guess a bit different from most Linux-y.

        Debian got me through grad school, but Slack got me through undergrad on a hopelessly underpowered old ThinkPad — Volkerding is a legend, and Slack will always be dear to my heart.

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          Never experienced Slackware so I can’t compare, sorry. When I got into Linux in like, 2002, I was using Mandrake before they died, and didn’t hear much of Slackware at the time.

          I had a friend that was a couple years older that was running it on a home web server though. Back when people ran home web servers. This dude would sit there and use the keyboard the entire time even in OSes like Windows, he memorized every goddamn shortcut and macro that exists. Had a dusty mouse next to his system almost never being used. Probably just to satisfy the BIOS self test.

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      I feel like most everyone

      Beware the false consensus. Not all birds are seagulls, but get a plate of chips and that’s all you’ll see.

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          Do seagulls even eat crisps? (I suppose I’m more interested in how they’d go about it)

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      I think Windows 10 has nailed it UI/UX-wise.

      Too bad they enshittified it into oblivion.

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      It peaked somewhere between 2000 and 7. Personally, I place it in XP, but opinions vary.

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        2K was my jam.

        The death of the DOS line of Windows (3.x, 9x, ME) lead to the decision to inject clown DNA into NT in order to appeal to the masses and that’s how we ended up with XP.

        Vista was an attempt to eradicate the clown, but it was still there, people hated it and because Microsoft thought they had eradicated the clown, they thought people wanted more clown, and that’s how we ended up with Windows 8.

        What about 7? The clown gene skipped a generation.

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        I run Debian at home because “Microsoft evil”, but I kinda think the Windows 10 image we use at work is alright. I work at a Forbes 500 company with a huuuge IT department, so I’m guessing they’ve done well at setting up group policies or something to make a de-cluttered experience for us. At least I never see any ads or Bing bullshit, and the Start menu works like I expect from ye old days. I could never make W10 work just as sleek at home, so I gave up and moved to Linux.

        That said, most developers here still use a local Linux VM for actual developing lol.

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        98SE, XP, and 7 each were relatively solid for their time. They all had issues, but were far better at being an OS than what we have now or are trying to be sold to constantly upgrade to.

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          React OS is awesome, and I need it to run stable on some metal.

          And also play WoW, because I don’t trust linux to run whatever copy-protection crap is on there and not brick my account through no fault of its own.

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      Has there ever been a good version of Windows? Old versions were functional but terribly insecure and newer versions are reasonably secure but cloud connected ad platforms.

      Windows 10 is probably the middle ground although the newer versions come with the same anti features Windows 11 has

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        Good question. I will say W7 because W10 necessitated an SSD to stay performant, so bloat and bullshit got rolled into W10

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    The meme equates ‘popular’ with ‘better’. There’s a very good reason we didn’t try to make an ubuntu back in 2002, and that reason - weak/bad validation of deployed package payload - is still true today.

    If you care about build/release, precise validation is important to you. It’s one of the holy trinity of build/release.