• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    Consensus candidate gives consensus answer on question that can only hurt her with the election weeks away.

    That’s all there is to it. This is just not something we’re going to see her real thoughts on until after the election.

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    “You’ve gotten a lot of credit for emphasizing the humanity of Palestinians. But what I often hear from folks is that there is no policy change that either you or President Biden said you would do. Is there a policy change as president that you would do in our helping of Israel in this war?”

    “We need to get this deal done,” Harris replied, “and we need to get it done immediately. And that is my position. And that is my policy.”

    Daniels followed up. “But in the way that we send weapons and the way we interact as their ally, are there specific policy changes?”

    Harris said that she was “entirely supportive” of the Biden administration’s decision to pause a shipment of weapons. She then quickly turned back to a need for a ceasefire agreement.

    The line of questioning was the toughest Harris has faced on the issue, which remains a source of deep frustration among some Democratic voters over what they see as the party’s effort to push Gaza into the margins of political discourse. Harris’ answers on Tuesday, which relied heavily on boilerplate campaign points, are unlikely to quell that criticism.

    Sorry how are those hard questions? Or just a sign of how little the press asks about it?

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      For current news, those were hard questions. I think just not accepting what the candidate says as facts and following up with detailed questions equals “hard questions” now.

      Look how the news is treating Trumps mental decline compared to when his opponent was Biden.

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      Well it’s obviously hard for Kamala or else she wouldn’t have weaseled around answering the question.

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    Call me insensitive, but shouldn’t we be more worried about the terrorists on our home soil before fighting foreign lands. As in, every idiot who thought Jan 6 was a good idea. Because I can already picture the unhappy voters reaction whether Dems or MAGA wins.

    2 have been fired at Trump, and they’re investigating for Kamala.

    And the worst part is: I STILL don’t know who the bad guy is. Israel? Palestine? How should I know, I can barely process the legislation and corruption that was alllowed to pass on our home soil.

    Anyway I hope to become more informed on this issue now, seeing as our leader HAS to know a solution. Even though one candidate shouldn’t even be able to walk freely. And I hope everyone else does as well

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      We can do both

      Israel, Israel is the bad guy… Any country/person/company supporting Israel is the bad guy.

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        So raiding and taking civilians hostage is ok…even good. Holding the hostages for months is ok. Hiding them throughout your population is good. Exposing that population to attack and risk is good.

        Israel is 100% wrong in the West Bank but responsibility in Gaza is a moot point.

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    I’m still wondering when Americans will finally wake up and realise how absolutely fucked their entire system is. You are being forced to pick between a genocidal bastard or fascist wannabe-dictator for the highest seat of government.

    You guys really need to get together and just dismantle the entire thing. It was a good try but it’s fucked. Start again.

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      …we do understand. But solving it isn’t exactly easy. Why don’t we just dismantle a world superpower with the biggest military in the world and a massive landmass and a spread out populace? Oh, why didn’t we think of that.

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        If people actually accepted the reality of the situation, truly, in their hearts, they wouldn’t find all of these excuses for it. Look at the replies, literally the first one is just “well, trump is worse, so we have to support Kamala”. You, as an individual, understand it when you think logically, but as a collective, the American people aren’t ready to admit that their elections are completely rigged.

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          Hold up - you don’t have a solution, but you’ll criticise people for doing what they can to keep the fascists out of power?

          I agree with what you’re saying broadly, but if you’re going to wax ideological while you let the fascists win, you can fuck all the way off.

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            I haven’t really criticised anyone for voting for Harris, I absolutely agree that given the situation that you’re in, it’s the right thing to do, no doubt.

            My point is that there are so many people who don’t accept that Kamala Harris is a fucking terrible person and in a real democracy she wouldn’t have a chance of getting elected.

            You’re in this horrible position where in order to do the right thing you’re forced into supporting a genocide. You have to accept that is what you’re doing, do it anyways, and then do everything you can to bring the system down to stop it from ever happening again.

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              you’re completely ignoring that a large portion of our populace are racist rednecks who fanatically support a guy like trump. it’s not just a systemic issue, we are a highly polarized nation and overthrowing the government won’t change that, it’ll only make it worse.

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          “Trump is worse” sounds like a false dichotomy, but it isn’t. First past the post voting mathematically forces a two party system given enough election cycles.

          This video shows how: https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

          So until Americans can have a vote that’s a list instead of a checkmark, the choices really are genocide and super genocide. It’s horrific and so much of it stems from something so innocent.

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      Gotta tell you, that wannabe dictator would be even more genocidal. The dude was so fanatically pro-Israel in the debate that he accused Harris of being the cause of its destruction within two years if she is elected. He has not called for any sort of cease-fire. He has not criticized arms shipments to Israel and never called for them to be paused.

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        Stop shifting the blame, currently trump is not in power. So the people in power has all the blame they should get right now. Trump is just more honest but in reality both will do their best to defend israel

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          Harris is not in power either. She does not set or implement policy. You do know what the powers of the Vice President are, yes?

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            Are you telling me thst a vice president which one of it’s function is to be advisor to the president shouldn’t have part of the responsability?

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              Not unless you know what she’s advised him of, no. Or are you under the impression that he has to do what people who advise him say?

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                If the government support a genocidal terrorist state then anybody in the government has the responsibility to resign

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                  Okay, well that’s not going to happen. So the choice is going to be Trump or Harris and to suggest that we can’t know where Trump stands on Israel compared to Harris is either dishonest or highly ignorant.

                  The fact is that both of them are on the wrong side of this genocide, so they have to be chosen by other criteria. “Just don’t vote for either of them” is not an answer. That’s also not going to happen for most voters.

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          blame is irrelevant. what is relevant is choosing who you think will handle it best (or less bad) in the next 4 years. if you think that’s trump, you’re delusional. if you think trump would have handled the last 11 months better, you’re delusional.

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        Right, but you must realise if I asked you to choose between getting your hand amputated or your arm amputated, for no reason, the correct answer isn’t your hand, it’s to refuse to allow unnecessary amputations to continue.

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          And how would you propose we do such a thing? Because if “just overthrow the government” was that easy, Donald Trump would be president right now.

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                If you don’t admit that there’s a problem, then answering your question would be a waste of time, because you would, most likely, just be looking for something to argue with me about, rather than considering my points in good faith.

                If you’re happy to start the conversation from a place where you admit that, yes, the US political system is so rigged that it is impossible to meaningfully reform, then I’m happy to answer your question.

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          “no reason”? if the alternative to a hand or arm amputation is death, yeah, i’m gonna choose a hand amputation.

          that’s what our alternative is in your analogy. remember the US is highly polarized right now, so one (sane) group taking over the US govt is likely impossible, and even if successful would end up in a massive civil war. that would not only destroy life in the US for the foreseeable future, but the entire global economy and geopolitical equilibrium.

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    Words cannot express what a disappointment Kamala has turned out to be.

    Another cut from the same genocidal cloth.

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          Everyone says that about their single issue.

          I agree it’s important but other things also exist.

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            Oh yeah “shut up about your single issue where people are dying because I don’t like their tax proposal”. Fuck anyone who openly supports genocide like this.

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      I disappointment suggests you had hope in the first place. I doubt that

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        I did actually, I thought she might be better than Biden. I even stopped speaking critically of her for the other shit I’m not a fan of (ex. her law enforcement career).

        I can bite my tongue for somethings, but not when it comes to genocide. There’s no middle ground to be met on.

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          Well I’m blissfully unaware of the stranglehold that the Jewish lobby has in American politics. But it seems that there no chance of getting elected when pissing them off.

          I’m in favor of actions instead of words. Trump showed us he’s deep on Bibi’s cock. I hope that securing the election victory maar remove that stranglehold.

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                I can do one without doing the other. I am an atheist and do not care for religion at all. However, that does not mean I blame Jews for something another group, the Zionists, think and do. Sure there is an overlap and corrolation, but the same is also very much true for the US Christian nut jobs along with others.

                If you are going to label people and reject them on the basis of their label, make sure to label them right.