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    These people have banks and bills

    And yes every body found is counted and attempted to be verified by hospital morgues.

    What bills? What banks? What hospitals do you think are operating in Gaza right now? Who is digging up every destroyed house and carting away every corpse, to what functioning morgue?

    There are 12 hospitals operating in Gaza right now. In what reality do you think they’re spending their resources on counting bodies already dead that someone transported there (for what to happen to them)?

    Fuckin bills… yeah, they just fire up their home computers and pay the electric bill, and if they don’t, someone knows they’re dead. It’s all real straightforward.

    I am done now

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        Yes, they’re excellent under pretty grim conditions. However, they only count (and only attempt to count) directly verified deaths, which obviously is the lower bound on the deaths and not the actual number. The Lancet article explains this.

        Didn’t we talk about this already? It seems like we did and now you’re pretending not to understand verified versus unverified deaths.

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          Me personally I’m going to stick with number of deaths as reported by the gaza government. Which has been proven over this past decade to have accurate numbers through multiple mass-casualty events.

          Not conservative estimates or whatever crap the Lancet is trying to push.

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            You can do that, sure. I definitely have also observed the Gaza Health Ministry to be pretty on point (again under pretty grim conditions).

            Gaza’s health ministry has declared a polio epidemic across the Palestinian enclave, blaming Israel’s devastating military offensive for the spread of the deadly virus.

            In a statement on Telegram, the ministry on Monday said the situation “poses a health threat to the residents of Gaza and neighbouring countries” – the latest sign of a worsening public health emergency caused by Israel’s genocidal war since October.

            Calling the epidemic a “setback” to the global polio eradication programme, the ministry called for an “immediate intervention to end the [Israeli] aggression and find radical solutions” to lack of potable water and personal hygiene, damaged sewage networks and removal of tonnes of rubbish and solid waste.

            Poliomyelitis, which is spread mainly through the fecal-oral route, is a highly infectious virus that can invade the nervous system and cause paralysis. Cases of polio have declined by 99 percent worldwide since 1988, thanks to mass vaccination campaigns, and efforts continue to eradicate it everywhere.

            Earlier this month, Gaza’s health ministry said it had detected “component poliovirus type 2” in coordination with the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF). The virus was found in sewage “that collects and flows between the tents of the displaced,” said the ministry.

            Already scarce supplies of drinking water in the densely-populated Gaza Strip are at risk of being contaminated by the virus.

            Idk man, maybe those people just didn’t pay their sewer bill. Hey, maybe that’s where the overcount of casualties came from! They forgot to pay the sewer bill online or at the banks that are all still functioning, and someone at The Lancet thought they were dead.

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              Can you believe 80% of Palestinians currently support the October 7th attack as well as support hamas even after all this shit? It’s mind boggling how they had it all and here they are. They choose to do and support this crap.

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                Welp

                Justifying atrocities against people because they want to take revenge on you for the other atrocities is… well, I mean, it’s not like un heard of I guess, it’s just weird to hear it spelled out so clearly like there’s nothing wrong with it.

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                  Oh yeah, atrocities we committed on them. Supporting their exponential population growth. All the aid we send them. 60% of their population children? And growing.

                  Damn. We really committed atrocities toward them. How dare we send them billions and billions in aid. They fucked and fucked and partied so hard from such horrendous atrocities.

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            Lancet is literally one of the most, if not the most, prestigious medical journal in the world.

            If you don’t believe the actual medical journal then you’re lost. Plus Israel has bombed Gaza so much that they have destroyed all the hospitals and record keeping facilities. In addition, the US government passed a bill limiting publications from talking about the death toll. https://www.commondreams.org/news/genocide-denial-congress

            On top of that, Israel has dropped a minimum of 300 bombs per day on Gaza since October 8th. If each bomb only killed one person, we would have a death toll of 300 per day x approximately 300 days is 90,000.