According to two Russian soldiers interviewed by a pro-invasion blogger, if you wear a Russian military uniform on the metro in Moscow people distance themselves and give you dirty looks.

  • Deestan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    Yeah, draft dodging means maybe losing your freedom and the ability to provide for your children, which is a shit situation to be put in.

    But the choice is between poverty and fucking murder. Your choice sucks, but you choose to be a monster. I spare my sympathy for those who choose to be not-murderers.

    • Rolder@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      But at the same time, they are absolutely being fed propaganda and don’t have an accurate view of what is going on in Ukraine.

      • Deestan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        That is a valid point. I personally can’t accept it changing the situation, but I won’t hold it against anyone that do.

      • themajesticdodo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        So Russians are dumb and their phones don’t get internet? Nah. Bullshit. Russians are fucking cowards. The whole world knows it. It’s been on display for over a year.

        The dumb die. So it is and always has been.

        • Aux@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          According to Wiki only 3.5% of Russians have good English proficiency. I also saw numbers between 5% and 10%. Even if it’s 10% of Russian population, 90% can only read and understand Russian. They go to the internet and what do they see? Russian fucking propaganda! Now imagine yourself in their shoes.

          • jarfil@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            They go to the internet and what do they see? Russian fucking propaganda!

            And whose fault it is? You go on the internet speaking English, and what do you see? Russian fucking propaganda! Where is the Russian-speaking Western propaganda machine when you need it?

            • Aux@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              When you understand English at a good level you’re able to find multitude of opinions and make up your own mind. If you fail for Kremlin propaganda at this point - it’s on you. But if you don’t know English, you don’t have access to alternative opinions at all. That’s a VERY BIG difference.

              • jarfil@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Duh, that’s my point! Why isn’t there Western propaganda in Russian?

                How is it the Kremlin can pay a bunch of people to write fake news in English and turn Western social media to shit, but the White House can’t do the same to write fake news in Russian? So much CIA, MI6, all the EU agencies… what, you telling me they don’t have the money, or what?

                • Aux@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Information in Russia is tightly controlled. All independent media outlets of any kind were forcefully closed in 2022. If you want to create a Western propaganda outlet today, you have to have some people doing stuff in Russia. But once they’re there they will go straight to jail.

                  • jarfil@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Well, don’t do it in the open. I know the whole world and their uncle let RT run their media freely for like forever, but I can’t believe Russia’s information infrastructure is so tight that a well organized task force couldn’t infiltrate it without being detected.

                    Like, maybe in 2020 they could have me fooled, but after what they did in the Kyiv assault of 2022, when they fried their own comms, ECMd their own missile defenses, kept selling tank fuel for cigarettes and drinking the cooling liquid… that whole country must be a freaking clown town.

                    What, do they need to send some clowns to blend in? Then do it, start some pirate news stations, get to the people and let them have an alternate point of view.

                    Back during the Cold War, the East had Radio Free Europe to listen to. You could get arrested if they caught you, but people still did it. Tech has changed since then, but Radio Free Europe is still working, so they must have some infrastructure still in place. Use that, or whatever modern equivalent.

              • jarfil@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                1 year ago

                Right, porn… that’s why all the Russian horny bastards can write in English!

                I know, we need to turn PornHub to Russian only! Force the kids to learn by searching for some hot бабушка porn, then they’ll know something more than typing “CYKA BLYAT” in CSGO chat. The counter information task force of tomorrow is just a few faps away!

        • SCB@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          Bro half of the fediverse is loaded up with communists and fascists, respectively.

          Kind of weird to pretend Russians have a monopoly on being dumb.

    • jarfil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Would you rather kill your own children, or kill someone else’s children? At least they aren’t shooting refugees for refusing to rape each other, that’s the Saudis…

      Ain’t the world a nice place?

      • Deestan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago
        1. That’s nowhere near the dillemma they are facing.

        2. Russians are already torturing, kidnapping and executing civilians so not even a valid whataboutism.

        • jarfil@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Having your children or parents/grandparents, starve or freeze to death, can easily kill them. Maybe it’s not 100% certain like shooting someone to death, but still, most people value their own people’s lives more than someone else’s.

          And it’s not whataboutism, just a qualification on a scale: I haven’t heard (yet) of Russians forcing civilians to torture each other, so they’re like a step less depraved than the Saudis.