The Vilnius summit could have achieved much more, if only the political willpower had allowed it

The Vilnius summit could have achieved much more, if only the political willpower had allowed it

  • Mindlight@lemmy.world
    72·
    1 year ago

    “There’s no chance NATO’ll grant Ukraine membership. It is right next to Russia, and NATO is scared to upset Putin.”

    While I agree that the chances for Ukraina bring admitted is next to slim I definitively don’t agree with your opinion on why it will not happen.

    You do understand that Ukraine is literally the only democracy in Europe that shares borders with Russia and is not a member of NATO?

    • Gramatikal@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      Also, don’t forget that Ukraine has sihnificant oil & gas reserves in the East as well as contributing an enormous amount to the world’s food supply. Having the chance to get those things in the hands of a far friendlier country, I think NATO will put a lot of effort into getting Ukraine solidly on our side.

    • xuxebiko@kbin.socialOP
      32·
      1 year ago

      It is not a member of NATO because Merkel (Putin’s useful idiot or agent, take your pick) would not allow it.

      While I agree that the chances for Ukraina bring admitted is next to slim

      Why, in your opinion, is that?

        • xuxebiko@kbin.socialOP
          1·
          1 year ago

          The reasonable countries in NATO have been burnt before by letting in countries with a long record of having reasonable governments, and Ukraine has had one for only a decade. They probably aren’t that keen to be burnt again.

          Yet NATO has not taken any steps to remove/ suspend the memberships of member countries turned dictatorships or with govt. supporting dictatorships. They’re ok with it, so why this farce?

          Meanwhile while NATO has a lot to offer Ukraine, Ukraine doesn’t have a whole lot to offer NATO

          Ukraine is a buffer country between Russia and NATO countries. It controls a critical piece of territory & has been offering NATO a whole lot since Feb 24, 2022 which is why NATO is supplying them arms & ammo. NATO is not altruistic, Hell! it was only when Ukraine did not lose in the planned 3-4 days and when NATO’s own citizens held huge demonstrations supporting Ukraine that it started supporting Ukraine.

          NATO is content with Ukraine bleeding and getting bombed, because Putin (who they all have coddled for a long while) is kept busy with it, is weakened by it, but still retains power in Russia. A decisive win for Ukraine is a fatal loss for Putin and NATO are afraid of what he might do. They’ve always been afraid of him, so they sacrifice Ukraine. It is most cowardly.

        • bouh@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 year ago

          Ukraine is becoming one of the largest armies in the world, and one of the two with big intensity war experience. They lack equipment and some training, but they have a lot to teach nato and a lot of manpower so nato citizen don’t have to go to war in the near future.

          They also were controlling a strategic piece of territory, which is why Russia invaded in the first place. Access to Mediterranean Sea. There’s nothing the US love more than to have their enemies surrounded and blockades by US vassals. You know like Taiwan for example.