The move is controversial, with many third-party apps having to shut down as a result, but the Reddit CEO has his reasons and doesn’t appear to be backing down
I think the difference that spez failed to realize when he decided to turn the enshittification dial up to 11 is that, unlike facebook, whatsapp, instagram, etc, we were not on reddit because of people we know. There was no peer pressure or awkward conversations. We did not rely on reddit as a means of communication that was irreplaceable. When the whatsapp drama happened, we couldn’t really up and leave, because grandma doesn’t know how to download signal. because the local market down the road has whatsapp set up for orders and doesn’t really give a shit. the family group has important starred chats that we refer to, etc etc.
This is not at all the case with reddit. Reddit is where we went for content. But whether the content is on reddit, lemmy, or the back of a shampoo bottle in the bathroom, it made no difference whatsoever. In my jump from reddit I’ve had to explain to exactly zero people why I’m making this decision. You cannot do that with instagram or whatsapp; and it took me years to convince people that I will not use facebook (thankfully that’s now a little more acceptable of a concept, but i digress). they wanted to play like the big social media boys, but they forgot that, in their core, they are not a social media platform.
I hate to be harsh but can we stop fooling ourselves here? Many large subreddits have already ended their blackout and are continuing as if nothing ever happened. The mods are continuing to slave away for free. The blackout itself barely made a dent in activity. I usually don’t care to comment but even Lemmy is getting infected with comments/posts of people patting themselves on the back for achieving virtually nothing.
I’m not saying Reddit isn’t reliant on users but these blackout and “mass” exodus movements are meaningless gestures. I literally only moved to Lemmy because RiF is closing.
I get the feeling the new metric will be the loss of all the mod tools and accessibility for users. Difficulty moderating when the 3rd party apps die, combined with the inconveniences and frustration with the app and site may actually be a catalyst. Subreddits may be back now (not surprised) but I’m interested in seeing what happens over next month after changes. It really may be reddit shooting itself in the foot and genuinely believing loss of users is the publics fault.
2 day blackout really never looked like anything more than a warning
I think the difference that spez failed to realize when he decided to turn the enshittification dial up to 11 is that, unlike facebook, whatsapp, instagram, etc, we were not on reddit because of people we know. There was no peer pressure or awkward conversations. We did not rely on reddit as a means of communication that was irreplaceable. When the whatsapp drama happened, we couldn’t really up and leave, because grandma doesn’t know how to download signal. because the local market down the road has whatsapp set up for orders and doesn’t really give a shit. the family group has important starred chats that we refer to, etc etc.
This is not at all the case with reddit. Reddit is where we went for content. But whether the content is on reddit, lemmy, or the back of a shampoo bottle in the bathroom, it made no difference whatsoever. In my jump from reddit I’ve had to explain to exactly zero people why I’m making this decision. You cannot do that with instagram or whatsapp; and it took me years to convince people that I will not use facebook (thankfully that’s now a little more acceptable of a concept, but i digress). they wanted to play like the big social media boys, but they forgot that, in their core, they are not a social media platform.
Yup, perfectly said.
I hate to be harsh but can we stop fooling ourselves here? Many large subreddits have already ended their blackout and are continuing as if nothing ever happened. The mods are continuing to slave away for free. The blackout itself barely made a dent in activity. I usually don’t care to comment but even Lemmy is getting infected with comments/posts of people patting themselves on the back for achieving virtually nothing.
I’m not saying Reddit isn’t reliant on users but these blackout and “mass” exodus movements are meaningless gestures. I literally only moved to Lemmy because RiF is closing.
I get the feeling the new metric will be the loss of all the mod tools and accessibility for users. Difficulty moderating when the 3rd party apps die, combined with the inconveniences and frustration with the app and site may actually be a catalyst. Subreddits may be back now (not surprised) but I’m interested in seeing what happens over next month after changes. It really may be reddit shooting itself in the foot and genuinely believing loss of users is the publics fault.
2 day blackout really never looked like anything more than a warning