• very smart Idiot@sh.itjust.works
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    Is he mixing up people with 3 gonosomes?

    Because these are not too rare. It’s one of the more frequent mutations.

    But even a person with XXY is a male. Since the male gonosome is considered as a mutation of an X chromosome. Somewhere in the evolution of mammals and other vertebrates (or most likely much earlier) something messed up and created the Y chromosome from an X chromosome. That’s why genetic diseases are usually more frequent in males, since one branch of the X chromosome does not have some backup. It’s simply missing.

    So whenever a person has one Y chromosome. It is considered male. The lack of a Y chromosome is considered a female.

    This can also be seen in people with genetic disorders, such as three gonosomes. XXX is a female XYY is a male XXY is also a male.

    And to everyone’s information: I am for Germany and we do not have two words for sex and gender.

    I don’t understand what you English speakers are up to.

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      I just wrote a comment above but I believe OP is mixing XXY with what the comment was about, which is likely Swyer Syndrome: XY individuals with female anatomy and gonadal dysgenesis. While they have a Y chromosome, a defective sex-determining gene leads to a failure to sexually differentiate into male gonadal tissue and leads to subsequent loss of downstream sex hormone production.

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        So I assume such people are identified as females at birth. But if their chromosomes indicate that they are male, what’s the gender then?

        I think it’s a male then, right? Because when a defect leads to malformations, it still is a malformation. One that people could probably live very well with.

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          If male and female are assigned purely based on physical anatomy, does it really matter?

          No one in that person’s life would consider them male and doctors would treat them based on their sex characteristics - they may have testes but they wouldn’t be external.

          I have never been karyotyped and I’m willing to bet most people haven’t either; your sex is assumed based on your outward appearance even when your genitals are not observable.

          I really don’t think that having a Y chromosome makes you male when you literally have a vagina, you know? Especially when you could go your whole life without knowing.

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          If the SRY gene is broken, they’d still physically develop as female, though potentially with some abnormalities, rather than as male. Even leaving gender identity out of it, sex is still more complicated than if exists Y; then male

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            But If I have a construction plan, and this plan is somewhat flawed, but I start building anyway, then I am still building the planned object, but with flaws?

            I don’t want to offend anyone. I myself have a genetic defect, much worse if you ask me, than some sexual genetic defect. I can barely consume any fructose without shitting myself. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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              I think if we’re going to use the construction plan metaphor, it would be more accurate to say that the builders didn’t get the message to alter the plans. Like if there was a house plan that was designed so it could be a duplex or a single family home by adding or removing one wall. Both options actually exist in the plans for the house at all times (yes, XX still has the genetic code for male anatomy), the SRY gene isn’t the plans to build male anatomy, that’s stored elsewhere, the SRY gene is more like a text to the builder saying “go with option B”. Except in this case the text failed to send, so the builder defaulted to option A.

              So at the end of the day, the builder doesn’t put the wall in and builds a single family home, not a duplex. The owner may have wanted a duplex, but that isn’t what got built. So is it a duplex or not? I would lean towards saying no, but we’re not talking about houses, we’re talking about people, so it should probably just be their call