• WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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      Luckily, we can choose to reject reality and believe whatever makes us feel better.

      I feel best believing the biosphere is gonna force humanity to “find out” for the last century of fuckin around with a recklessly unplanned terraform.

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      My uber driver said that global warming is actually true but have literally nothing about human influence.

      Some years ago these persons were saying that global warming was a hoax, now that only the human influence is a hoax.

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        I always hated that argument from people.

        Even if they’re right — which we all know they are not — it wouldn’t matter. Climate change is going to devastate human life if we do nothing. If, somehow, the source of the warming wasn’t human-caused, we’d still need to find a way to counteract it. It’s not our fault doesn’t prevent it from being our problem.

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          “it has nothing to do with human influence”

          “Ok, then let’s prepare for the inevitable, strengthen infrastructure, prepare for mass migrations, improve our crops to sustain bigger variances in weather, evacuate people from flood danger zones, ensure our supply chain doesn’t collapse, fund poor countries so they can survive better, etc. You know, prepare for the crisis”

          :|

          >:(

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          I had a guy tell me once that maybe climate change is just the Earth getting closer to the sun, and we should send an astronaut up to the Hubble telescope so they can look through it and measure the distance to the sun…

          I’ve known this guy for over a decade, and it’s not that he’s stupid, he’s just completely ignorant about climate change and doesn’t put in any effort to learn about science.

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        Ahhh, yes. The conservative backpedalling.

        It’s not happening. It’s happening but it’s all cyclical. It’s not cyclical this time but it’s not our fault. It’s our fault but global warming is good ackshually. Global warming is bad but there’s nothing we can do about it. We could do something about it but it’s too expensive/late. Maybe it’s not too expensive but THE CHINESE!

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          In stage one we say nothing is going to happen.

          Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.

          In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there’s nothing we can do.

          Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it’s too late now.

        • SaltySalamander@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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          but global warming is good ackshually.

          My dad unironically used this argument when we were talking about this last week. Some people have their heads so far up their own ass, it’s just sad.

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        Had a argument with a person on YouTube, he thought that increased CO2 in the atmosphere would be beneficial. It would help plants grow better!

        Also that humans was not behind it.

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        The sad thing is we’re supposed to be in a ice age. The plant is further away from the sun about the same plane since the last ice age.

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          If you’re based in the UK, then all you can do is smile at the shit we have to deal with government-wise. If you don’t laugh, you’ll go mad, kinda thing.

          That ‘Four Stage Strategy’ is horribly, horribly apt even today.

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        I’ve found a clever way to counter those folks is to say, “you might be right, and as the apex species it’s our moral obligation to seize control and protect the natural order of things for as long as we are able to slow the coming of hell on earth. Just like our right to shoot guns. Yee haw.”

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      What I hear some acquaintances say is like “who cares, I’ll go to the beach, turn the AC on, what’s the big deal” .

      As if the floods we had in Italy this year, or the wild fires, or the storms, or the draughts, or the Alps without snow, the glaciers disappeared, the sea turned green, the invasion of jellyfish weren’t connected.

      Some people, most people, are just too fucking stupid.

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        To be fair, I think both sides blow it out of proportion and that can stifle discussion. It won’t be the “end of the world” where everyone will die, but we will have the “end of the world” as we know it.

        I think one of the main points that need to be stressed to the kind of people in your example would be droughts.

        Droughts will continue to get worse and will affect everyone. With a bad enough drought, we won’t be able to feed entire cities. And that’s when things really start to fall apart.

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          Yeah, people expect the earth to suddenly start cracking and spitting out hot lava or something.

          No, it’s gonna be a slow, steady march towards the end, just as it always has been. Slow enough that we feel like we can put it off for another day.

          Slow enough that one day we will look up from our phones, see the oceans of fire and shrug. Too late now, just switch on the AC and go back to scrolling.

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          As an example of this, the North America wildfires this year don’t really seem to be due to climate change… but people keep tying the ideas together.

          The extreme weather swings and the droughts are bad enough. And it is guaranteed to get worse. No reason to stretch the truth.

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      If you don’t choose to believe in it, it can’t hurt you. That’s verified fact