Hello World!
We’ve made some changes today, and we’d like to announce that our Code of Conduct is no longer in effect. We now have a new Terms of Service, in effect starting from today(October 19, 2023).
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The new Terms of Service can be found at https://legal.lemmy.world/
In this post our community mods and users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World. We hope to discuss and inform constructively and in good faith.
In reddit I questioned the logic of an anti-vax group and immediately got banned by about a dozen bots in other groups because I had commented in a “forbidden” group. There was no attention paid to the content of the comment. So much for reddit being a forum for discussion.
If you can’t moderate a group without using ban bots then you shouldn’t be moderating.
As a former mod, I understand why some mods used automatic bans. I modded a few moderate sized subs and noticed posting trends in other subs amongst troublemakers. “For some reason”, many active posters in r/TheDonald, r/Conservative, and similar subs were far more likely to be offensive or hurtful and didn’t have much that was interesting, helpful, or constructive to say. Certainly nothing valuable enough to tolerate their shit. When we’d temporarily block one of them for name calling or other personal attacks, we’d get messages ad nauseam claiming we had violated their first amendment rights, that they were going to find and harm us in some way, or just a bunch of further name calling and personal attacks. I had two try to dox me. Poorly. They weren’t very bright.
With that being said, we didn’t use auto bans because they’re chickenshit. Yeah, they would save us a fair amount of time and aggravation, but they’d also ban people like you and me, who may have told some Nazis to fuck off or explained, line by line, how the latest thing Joe Rogan or Bench Appearo shit out their mouth was exactly that: shit. If you’re going to mod a community, it’s kind of what you sign up for. If you can’t handle it, then quit or get more backup. Don’t ruin it for others because you can’t or don’t want to deal with the unpleasant aspects of the job.
Ever since I heard this phrase, I occasionally like to imagine someone finding out they have magical abilities because they accidentally summoned a sex swing after saying “fuck ben shapiro”
Ban bots are the stupidest thing. I once wandered into a alt right conspiracy sub and called everyone the r-word. Got banned from there, got banned from another unrelated sub for posting there, and got an automated message from the admin team for using that word.
To be fair, using ableism that way is scummy and I won’t argue against that. But getting banned from justiceserved out of nowhere was just dumb.
If you want to ban trolls, be my guest. I am pretty triggerhappy with the block function myself. But as you said, preemptively banning people makes you look unfit for that position.