• KeenFlame
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    3 months ago

    I could get the game for free, the mtx for free, and could want to play it, and would still never do it, because of how stupid this is. Sorry studio artists, your work is forever tainted for the choices of your owners. It will never shine through their dense immoral greed of your masters.

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      3 months ago

      You’re just denying yourself a really fun experience. The game is actually really good especially if you’re able to download it without paying if the whole morality thing is what’s stopping you. If it’s available I’d get it.

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        3 months ago

        I won’t stand for it, it’s just not worth it. There’s other fun games that don’t associate with mafia scum. I dislike how they steal money and consecutively contribute negatively to humanity

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              I dislike how they steal money and consecutively contribute negatively to humanity

              Steal money, I’m assuming in this case, is sell a product. They aren’t forcing anyone to buy it, but it is scummy as hell. That’s capitalism for you.

              Contribute negatively to humanity, I’m not sure what that means. If it means exploiting people, that’s capitalism!

              There are no non-indie studios not participating in this. It sucks, but the goal (in capitalism) is to maximize profits. They are attempting to milk customers as much as they can for this purpose. This game isn’t even particularly bad about it. Modern gaming all is like this and it’s aweful, but it is what it is. You can participate in this game or not, but this one game isn’t the only place this is happening. It’s happening literally everywhere, like egg prices going up due to “supply shortages” and never going back to normal. That’s capitalism.

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                They literally steal money. That’s your problem, you think they are following your rules and swallow that they are engaged in conduct that is okay without scrutinising it in the least because it would be a real hassle and you know nobody would deal with it anyway. Because this is the only way to make a difference. I am a game developer, I know the industry, the bastards in these mafia cells are straight up stealing. Nobody creative has any choice. Nobody has a fucking supply shortage. Creatives are being abused, I want to only participate when I can be assured these insane practices are not involved. It’s not capitalism it’s pure greedy crime

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                  That’s your problem, you think they are following your rules and swallow that they are engaged in conduct that is okay without scrutinising it in the least because it would be a real hassle and you know nobody would deal with it anyway.

                  Please, read my comment again. I scrutinized it. It’s just that it’s fucking everywhere. This game is getting a ton of shit for it and it isn’t even a very bad offender. It sucks, but this isn’t the game that deserves the hate. At least it’s not loot boxes or other gambling mechanics. Also, it’s not theft. It’s manipulative, but it’s not “literally stealing”.

                  I want to only participate when I can be assured these insane practices are not involved.

                  This will never happen. If they’re incentivized to do scummy things to make more profit, you can almost be assured they’ll do it. Regardless, you can never be sure it’s not happening. Remember how we hear about sexual abuse occasionally and it turns out it’s been happening for decades? Yeah, now think about how often they’re doing things that aren’t technically illegal that we don’t hear about.

                  It’s not capitalism it’s pure greedy crime

                  If greedy crime is profitable, that’s capitalism incentivizing it. The goal of capitalism is to maximize profits. That goal does not align with what we should want it to. We should prioritize happiness, good, creativity, or almost anything else. That’s not the system we’re in though.

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        3 months ago

        There are lots of good games out there from moral companies. He doesn’t need to play this one.

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      Why? Like, I generally draw a pretty hard line with predatory games, but this just seems pointless. There’s nothing you can get from the MTX that you can’t easily get through normal gameplay. It’s admittedly a trap for the ignorant, but a pretty pointless one.

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        It encourages big publishers to make developers put in game mechanics that are slightly more tedious so you pay to skip. So like mobile games just bot as obviously shitty. I dread when they come after my favourite franchises one after one. It makes the goal not to have a good game but to have a game optimized for spending money, it shifts priorities in a bad direction.

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          It can, but definitely doesn’t in this case. The systems in question in DD2 are identical to the first game. There’s nothing in the game at all that encourages you to spend money or alerts you that you can. Frankly I wouldn’t have even known these micro transactions existed if there wasn’t so much online drama about it.

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            The rarity of ferrystones is I think a product of their attempt at mtx. I know you can buy them for 10k each and then spam the inn until they replenish, but for a long time that’s kind of a lot of money. I’m level 43 and haven’t really found a solid way to make money “quickly” that isn’t just “do story quests” or “grind out mobs for maybe 500g every 2 mobs.”

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              DD1 did the same thing. If it wasn’t design intent, how would both of these games end up with the same system?

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              The difficulty of getting ferrystones is by design, no different than the previous game. If you fast travel everywhere you’re missing out on a lot of the events in the world. They’re handy to use in certain situations, but there are other options to get around.

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        It shows that the devs are willing to take advantage of the less keen eyed or a person in a rush. That is downright predatory and evil. Practically a scam.

        You might be fine with giving your money to people like that, some people aren’t.

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          So what games have you played in the last decade? This is the industry, you might as well complain about predatory concession prices at movie theaters. Is it shitty? Sure. But it’s a trap for the ignorant, and frankly I can only go so far to try to protect people from throwing away their money on stupid things.

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        3 months ago

        They have an option to not work with scalpers We all have an option to piss on them and I choose to do it