spaceghoti
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They’re using this to provoke challenges against the wall of separation between church and state. They feel confident, with good reason, that the christofascist majority on the Supreme Court will reinterpret our Constitution to eliminate that law.
I have no idea why anyone would come here and think it’s okay to defend any religion.
I’ve read them, and I used to preach from them. When you read them critically rather than reverentially, Jesus was a dick.
Would you like to see some examples?
The canonical gospels, where thought crime is first introduced into the religion? Where the founder of the religion declares that everyone who doesn’t agree with him is doomed to eternal torture? Are you sure that’s an argument you want to make?
They passed separate aid packages for Ukraine and Israel. They could have done all the aid packages in one lump, but House Republicans voted it down on Trump’s orders.
The speculation is that with Trump’s criminal trial in session in New York, he doesn’t have the capacity to micromanage Republicans on the Hill. So this was Magic Mike’s first opportunity to pass the bill unobstructed, even if it required Democrats to assist.
And they’ll kill to get it.
MAGA is disgusting, yes. But sacrilege, like blasphemy, is a victimless crime. So what’s the problem?
Yes, and?
That verse is too vague. Every Christian thinks it applies to them, especially conservatives.
I don’t agree with that statement, because both on paper and in practice, Christianity is no better or worse than Islam. The only reason Christians aren’t slaughtering homosexuals and transgender people the same way is because they’ve been leashed by secularism. It’s not that they haven’t or don’t want to again. It’s that they know they can’t get away with it – yet.
Look at organizations like Seven Mountains and other Dominionist groups promoting Christian Nationalism. It’s not a coincidence that Kevin Swanson regularly sees Republican office holders at his “Kill the Gays” rallies. They don’t hate Islamic theocracies because of the theocracy part. It’s that they’re jealous of their religious power and want to surpass it.
The real tragedy is that we have some real world examples of exactly this attitude.
Dawkins stopped representing us a long, long time ago. He made some good points for a while, and then got so enamored of his own celebrity that he stopped being skeptical of his own thoughts. It’s sad to watch his decline, but he’s no longer relevant.
How do you mock your enemy if you don’t know who they are and what they’re doing?
Did you know about them before reading this? I didn’t.
Know your enemy.
That’s the story they’ve been telling themselves so long that nobody really knows for sure. They certainly didn’t allow any other narrative once they took control of every government they could.
It’s possible, but we’ve been talking about that for at least fifteen years to counter the “the Founders intended us to be a Christian nation” nonsense.
They were always jealous of Muslim theocracy. They didn’t object to the practice so much as the flavor.
You can always tell someone is about to kick the stuffing out of a straw man when they target “new atheism.” This appears to be no different.
The Horsemen helped raise awareness and give voice to atheist skepticism. They did not speak for atheism or all atheists. Yes, polemicists like Hitchens had some toxic agendas, but he certainly didn’t speak for me when he called for the Middle East to be glassed.
Speaking strictly for myself, I’ll believe anything you tell me as long as you can support it with the appropriate evidence. If you tell me there’s life after death, I’ll believe you – after you show me how you know it’s actually true. I do not accept arguments from authority, arguments from faith, or any other example of motivated reasoning. You need concrete, repeatable evidence before I take you seriously.
Not all atheists are skeptics, and not all skeptics are atheists. But they are very complementary positions.
Do you think they’ll go away if Trump fails to take the White House?