Sorry, I wasn’t aware it was a reference to jaws.

I’ll retract my previous comment then.

Thanks for pointing it out :)

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the post of the previous commenter was nuanced.

usually it is a good thing, but since the far-right is blatantly nazi, there are some risk with “nuance”

overall, the previous comment seems to be analyzing how this divide is happening.

my only complaint is that the comment doesn’t make clear who are the fuckers who are dirving the social divide (spoilers: the right who is nostaligic about the post-war period and want to create a “new” post war period by, well, going full nazi)

As someone said on reddit they don’t want a safe space for them.

what they want is to be enabled to shit on everyone else’s food and smirk at us while we try to separate their shit from our beans.

It is a power dynamic where they want to force their shit upon us.

they already have their safe space on r/conservative where they go to circle jerk around “the left is bad”.

They do get tired from that and there is no new “left is bad” if the entire political spectrum was composed of them.

Far right and conservative hate is a self cannibalizing movement.

Even if they killed all gay, black, hispanic, asian, autistic, disabled and any sort of “the other”, then, they would need to find new “others” to start to hate and kill. Their fight is always inward, against the enemy within.

They will proceed to kill white people because either they are not white enough or that they are too white (“ginger” people which should’ve be considered the “correct type of white” if racism ever made any sense since they are paler than almost any other ethnicity).

So, they need an existing enemy and a platform that enables them to shit on us.

If they ever come to lemmy, the correct path is to ban as soon as they shou their true colors and start to throw shit around.

It only requires a few probing question to know if someone is in good or bad faith.

When the comment goes into 5 or more replies, it is almost always for sure that the conservative answering is in bad faith (only exception is if they clearly show that they are learning something with the discussion and adapting their viewpoints with each new comment)

I ask you to also be careful!

you don’t need to feed the trolls to help them see the light.

Treat it like an authoritative (but not authoritarian) parent:

You don’t let the kid do whatever inappropriate shit (that is a neglecting parent style), but you do state firmly the rules and give the consequence (authoritative) without making them fear you through spanking or other kinds of abuse (authoritarian).

I agree we should not be authoritarian.

But we should also not be neglectful!

Specific example:

If someone comes saying that trump did a roman salute, the authoritative answer is: “The nazi salute is a roman salute and both are used to promote fascism (link to wikipedia)”.

Simply and blunt, yet “non-judgemental” answer

Now if they reply saying shit like how they are actually different, then just call their bullshit off by saying things like: “I see no reason for someone to defend a roman or nazi salute unless that someone is a nazi. I really hope you aren’t a nazi, but if you are, know that you’re in the wrong. Period.”

Then stop any sort of further replies and start reporting if they keep harping on this (it would be similar to the time out that parents do to younger child).

In this thread:

A lot of men who didn’t read the article and didn’t got the satirical part of the act.

And given the last political polemic, I’m pretty sure these “men” are misrepresenting the article on purpose.

I kinda agree with you tho. It is way more realistically to have asteroid mining facilities before what I said in the previous comment

(And of course, earthly mining already exists and will get more efficient in the future anyways)

I really feel the urge to correct the “infinite power part” because it hurts my soul as a (wannabe) physicist.

There exist no thing like infinite energy generator because energy is always conserved (well, there are some weird corner cases this isn’t true, but that is another lesson).

There are massive “transformators” of energy known as stars (like our Sun)which expel radiation in massive quantities thanks to its humongous size and will take billions of years until it grows into a giant red star and more billions of years until it explodes into a white dwarf (If I recall it correctly).

Billions or even “measly” millions of years is basically “infinite” for human lifespan, I agree.

But it still is finite.

Fusion won’t be “infinite” (billions nor even millions of years) because it will be basically a “microscopic sun”

We’d need something a bit bigger than Jupiter to get something closer to a “infinite-red-dwarf-energy-generator”.

And Jupiter’s diameter is around 10 or 11 Earths diameter, so it is something that is already a big massive for humans to do.

I’d say that photovoltaic cells for solar energy would be easier to make “infinite energy” becuse we are copying what the best “infinite energy users” (also known as plants) have been doing for millions of years.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/SolarSystem_OrdersOfMagnitude_Sun-Jupiter-Earth-Moon.jpg

Also, Tony Hawk is a goddamn excellent game!

Dare I say that it was a pro skater too!

I’d even say that it would make it “easier” to generate elements that are rare on earth for aplication purposes.

The first example already sort of feasible is production (and storage) of Helium.

And if we master (in the far, far future) both fusion and fission, then we can make almost any element “with ease”.

Basically we would be able to do what the alchemist dreamed and be able to “turn stones to gold”.

But nowadays, one of our “new gold” are rare earth like Neodymium for making magnets

And there are other elements that are even rarer and would have massive applications only if they were little bit more abundant than they are now

Now, again, that would be only true in a far, far future if (and a big if) we can truly master both fusion and fission (what I actually want to mean is that my comment is basically an “hallucination” similar to those on r/futurology)

There are a few misconceptions in your comment:

While I do agree that there are other problems like racism and bigotry which existed before capitalism (based on an answer you gave in another comment) and while I do agree these also need to be addressed, I do disagree that capitalism isn’t a major source of problems of modernity.

Why?

Because the cornerstone of capitalism is to use money to generate more money in a feedback loop towards (nonexistent) “infinite money” (which is different from feudalism, roman empire or ancient Egypt which all had some sort of market without being capitalist economies).

SInce it is impossible to make infinity money, an inherent part of capitalism are the crises cycles of boom and bust.

It also makes the creation of services as an afterthought (because making money is more important) and it is also tied to the enshitfication we’re seeing today.

I think you’re calling as “capitalism” a thing that is actually “technological innovation (under capitalism)”

We’re all aware of free/open source softwares

We’re all aware that it is possible to develop technological innovation outside of capitalist framework (and again: Capitalism = Using money to make more (infinite) money)

almost all of scientific researches advances are because of passion of the researches instead of the greed of capitalism.

Yes… Everyone “needs” money to survive. But I hope you do agree that nobody in the world needs billions of dollars to simply survive.

for God’s sake, a lot of people living in “third world” dream of earning 300 dollars a month to survive and consider that making 1000 dollars a month is a small luxury (I’m from brasil and 1000 dollars is around R$ 4000 or R$ 5000 while most people lives with R$3000 or less)

What I’m saying is that, past the required money for surviving and for having a few “luxuries”, there is no need for anyone having millions or billions of dollars every month and that it would be possible to keep scientific and technological grow under such conditions because curiosity and desire for changes are part of human nature.

if it was entirely impossible for humans to develop things without being paid before, then nothing around open/free software would exist.

What if I bring treats? Or maybe 5 kg of raw meat? What is the probability that I win?

Trapping and feeding goes a long way too.

The saying “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar” isn’t for nothing.

And don’t underestimate the humans ability to pet the fuck out of everything!

Animals love receiving pets and we, humans, love petting animals.

I’m team “All animals must receive a pet”

I wouldn’t fight a goose, but only lord knows how much would I fight to give the goose my headpats and to have it really tame around me.

I would bring my A-Game and armed to the teeth with peanuts, grapes, banana and pellets!

And this fight will be legendary taking many day and nights (actually, scratch the idea of taking nights. A healthy goose must have a healthy and undisturbed sleep)

Even if it was the roman salute, it would still be a fascist salute.

And there is a reason why people say Nazi-Fascism.

Because a Nazi IS a Fascist.

And both must be banned from public discourse!

just to give historical context, Germany, Japan and Italy supported each other in their nazi-fascism for the exatc reason you already said. So there is no surprise that it is happening again with America and Israel

Nope. It is the far right gaining immense amount of power while both moderate right, left and “extreme left” are yelling at the terrorists (far right) wanting to crash the airplanes in the towers.

Be aware that if you lean in the far right, you risk going down with the terrorists while the “osama bin laden” of this story (and to be clear, I mean Elon) will be hidden behind the safety of his bunker.

as you can read on al jazeera, not only Elon did something that clearly resembles the nazi salute but he also has ties with the nazi party.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/21/elon-musk-at-trumps-inauguration-whats-the-history-of-the-nazi-salute

There is no excuse or funny remark to be made about it AND there is nothing to defend Elon about it. THIS SHIT MUST BE CALLED OUT!

Also, being “anti-woke” is a dog whistle for nazis and we know that Elon claim to be anti-woke, anti-trans and anti-lgbt.

Also, for all the anti-wokes: WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE ABOUT THE PRIVATE SEX LIFE OF OTHERS INSTEAD OF MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS FOR FUCKS SAKE???

I now regretting making the previous comment.

I made the previous comment in a jesting tone like “same… but different… but still the same”

Also, I went into a rabbit hole seraching for variations of nazi salute (because I know from history that brasil integralist movement had their own version of roman salute called anauê) and found about the bellamy salute.

Seeing that the nazis are actually using the “roman salute” as an actual excuse, I’ll take back what I said.

He is doing the nazi salute. Period.