They could prohibit him from being the registered owner of a motor vehicle. That way whoever is the registered owner can be charged for letting an unlicensed driver take the wheel. That should also come with the threat of loss of ownership privileges.

And this isn’t even lemmy.world, it’s lemmy.ca.

So (drum roll) it’s even weirder than you thought! 🤣

Or how to stay the hell out of blind spots. When I rode, I was constantly amazed by the numbers of fellow riders who didn’t understand that in order to be seen, you have to start by not hiding.

I did not. I did only single-tie systems for mathematical purity. (Just kidding. I might have tried it if I had thought to!)

No problem! I was once at a place that imposed a mandatory necktie policy. I hate neckties, so I thought I’d at least have fun with it. I wore ties as silly and varied as I could get away with and tied them different every day. That book was a boon.

It seems to me that if you are going to include 4-in-hand, a traditional necktie knot, then you should include these: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_85_Ways_to_Tie_a_Tie (at a minimum) and possibly reference this: https://phys.org/news/2014-02-mathematicians-ways.html (177,147 ways). 😀

They’re called “dessert forks” in the same way that some people call the small spoons “dessert spoons”.

And the community name gets a new meaning 😛

Canada deals with some of those problems by having a separation of state and medicine similar to our separation of state and church.

For example, I think we are the only country in the world with no abortion law. It’s a medical procedure, so it’s left to the medical community to develop standards of care and standards of practice.

It’s not perfect, but it’s worked out quite well since the 1980s. There were some major cases that led to our abortion laws being struck down by the courts and no government has yet had the courage to introduce new legislation of any kind.

I cannot know your experience and won’t pretend to.

Unless your objective is to be even more disliked and disrespected than you are now, being deliberately annoying will not get you far.

If you just want respect as a thinking, feeling human, you’re going to have to be respectful of other thinking, feeling humans, ignoring and blocking those who are too immature to have respect for others.

There are people out there who think that power is the source of respect. They are, of course, wrong. The only path to respect is through the elimination of power structures, so that respect can be mutually sought through understanding, not obedience.

I don’t like assholes, so I don’t seek them out. I try to give the assholes who engage with me the respectful engagement they crave but don’t deserve, then block the ones who stay assholes. If I feel surrounded by assholes, I disengage completely until I’ve figured out whether I’m actually the asshole or I’ve stumbled into a snakepit. (And everybody is sometimes an asshole. The secret is to not make it part of your identity or to assume that it’s part of theirs.)

Life is so much more pleasant when disagreements are respectful engagements with learning opportunities instead of just screaming matches.

Good luck on your journey.

This is what I was referring to. There are a number of variations on the theme.

If you are really in a pinch:

1. Feed a length of hose into the source until only a small amount is left clear of the liquid.

2. Put your thumb over the exposed end, or otherwise make the end as close to airtight as possible.

3. Rapidly pull the hose out of the liquid, moving the end down to the destination container. The end must be below the top surface of the source, the further the better.

4. Release your thumb/seal. If you’ve done it all correctly, the hose will be nearly filled with liquid and enough of it will be below the surface of the source to start the siphoning process.

If the source liquid is too far below the opening for this to work with the length of hose you have, you can manually pump it far enough to start a siphon, by rapidly submerging and lifting the hose while alternating the closing of the top. Open top while submerging, closed top while lifting. You have to push down faster than what gravity pulls the liquid back down. Ideally, you’re lifting fast enough to get some help from the liquid’s own inertia when you reverse course.

Ingesting gasoline is deadly in far smaller doses due to something called hydrocarbon pneumonia. My dad very nearly died as a result of having a tiny amount get past his throat while siphoning gas to a small engine’s tank.

If you must siphon gas, go buy a cheap “pump siphon” from Canadian Tire.

Ingesting gasoline is deadly in far smaller doses due to something called hydrocarbon pneumonia. My dad very nearly died as a result of having a tiny amount get past his throat while siphoning gas to a small engine’s tank.

If you must siphon gas, go buy a cheap “pump siphon” from Canadian Tire.

Until now, I’ve never seen anything with epoxy that I found visually impressive. And you went all the way to stunning!

That’s googol.

I feel like the kind of fun you speak to here is increasingly common and may be the only type of fun some people actually have but I feel like the idea of challenge doesn’t capture all possibilities.

Yes, as the conversation continues, I realize that I put too much emphasis on one aspect of what I find fun. Although it’s in the sense of accomplishment that I most often find pleasure, I certainly do have fun doing other things.

You could be right. I have no access to any formal study of sports fans, so I have no idea what “average” might be. As with most casual “analysis,” I’m limited by my personal experience and am projecting from that. It’s not scientifically appropriate, but if I always limit myself to the scientifically appropriate, I have no opportunity to learn from those who know better.

A much better phrasing would be “here is what I’ve learned from the sports fans I interact with…”

Well, I answered the questions to the best of my ability, enjoyed thinking things through enough to feel comfortable contributing, enjoyed seeing what others had to say, and feel good that I have both more awareness of the characteristics of those things I find most enjoyable and what other people think.

I deliberately left out the words “entertainment” and “fun” in that paragraph, but let me return to them now.

I don’t know enough to either agree or disagree with your contention that my separation of entertainment and fun is generally unproductive. You write of objective measures, but I don’t know if you’ve considered whether those measures might be improved. Maybe there are better terms than mine to distinguish between active enjoyment (what I call fun) and passive enjoyment (what I call entertainment). And maybe there is truly no difference in outcome.

That doesn’t change the fact that I at least think I get more enjoyment out of active engagement, even if the activity is as slight as trying to understand the specific reasons a particular movie was watched through to the end while another was turned off after 10 minutes.

I hypothesize that a complete set of measurements that captures magnitude, not just a binary state, would be able to distinguish between the passive enjoyment I get from funny animal videos, the somewhat more active enjoyment I get from analyzing a movie, and the much more active enjoyment I get from building a boat or writing a new story or writing a new program. But that is a mere suspicion and actual research would be necessary to determine the validity of that hypothesis.

I guess I distinguish between “entertainment” and “fun”. I, too, am entertained by things, and being entertained is an important part of enjoying life.

As for the “sports ball” fans, the ones I know seem to know the rules, the players, player stats, team stats, the pros and cons of various plays under different circumstances, etc. As much I don’t get it, I would hardly call something passive when time is put in doing what I can only call study. There are probably a higher percentage of “critic-level” sports fans than "critic-level"movie fans. How many people can name 5 directors, 1 editor, 1 cinematographer, and 1 costumer? Contrast that to the wealth of knowledge of the average sports fan.

I still don’t get the spending more money you than you can afford on memorabilia and other garbage trinkets, the making it a large part of your personality, the animosity with the other teams, the violence to their city when they lose, and many other bits, but the watching makes sense now.

I think most of that can be explained by a kind of tribalism. The whole system encourages the “fanatic” roots of being a “fan” over or in addition to the “mere passion” for the game. In fact , the Saskatchewan Roughriders football team goes as far as ads stressing the importance of the fan as “the 13th player” on the field (there are only 12 actual players on the field at a time). This has led to a fan base that might be more likely to attend a game in person when the team is struggling. That seems to be a bit of an anomaly in professional sports. (More amusingly, the team also blew a couple of very high profile games by accidentally fielding an actual 13th player! That in turn led to jokes that a dozen beer in Saskatchewan came with 13 cans and references to our inability to distinguish between “a dozen” and "a baker’s dozen, both of which seemed to only increase the “tribal” passion of the team’s fans.)

As far as I can tell, the passion exists without the worst of the fan tribalism at the recreational and kids level. On the other hand, that passion and the whole “coach/analyst” thing might explain many of the toxic behaviours that arise in “hockey parents”.

And I think that tribalism at the team level is behind most of the toxicity inside the locker room and in team behaviours outside the arena. The Canadaland podcast group recently did an excellent series on the problems inside junior hockey that highlights the problem.

All of which is way way off topic, but I hope we’re deep enough in the thread to not matter.