I’m a progressive leftie and care about genocide too but it’s not a magic shield that suddenly grants all my arguments immunity from criticism and also imposes on me the justification to insult everyone that disagrees with me personally. That’s just called being a dick.

Is it possible to have a conversation without morally loading every statement or are you here for the virtue signalling? I don’t think I’ve attacked you personally in any of my posts, have I?

sure as hell isn’t PANDERING! What the fuck is wrong with you??

Typical apologist tactic

PRETENDING to care about the brutal slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians

deflecting to your conspiracy theory

shows that YOU don’t care enough about Palestinian lives

I think it’s time to close Lemmy for the day. Cheers.

I’m glad I’m not the only one. That account is truly bizarre (from the point of view of how they write and express themselves). I’ve engaged with them a few times and it’s like a weird loop. I know it’s a real person, but it feels like talking to a script or dialog tree because it always goes down the same 1-2 dialog paths

Just to circle back, because you keep side-stepping it: Cuba is not equivalent to Israel. In any form or manner. That’s what started this conversation.

If you followed any of the left pundits, news outlets, and even social media (including Lemmy) before Oct 7 you would know that Joe was long dead in the water to this demographic. You can latch on to Israel/Palestine as a defining moment for this election but honestly if it wasn’t for this, this group would have found something else to latch on to. Joe may very well lose this election, but it won’t be because of the progressive left by any shot as demonstrated by who is actually showing up tot he polls (even if pivot states such as Mi with large muslim populations exist).

You’re not addressing the central point of my claim and simply restating your initial statement: that the president can change policy

has the power to change bad policy

while ignoring the key difference between Cuba and Israel. They are completely dissimilar situations with vastly different implications. The progressive left --which cares so much about genocide suddenly (forget Yemen, Syria, where more people have died int he last 6 years by an order of 10 than the entire palestine-israel conflict in the last 100 years)-- made up their mind about Biden long before Oct 7. The only way for Joe to pander to their vote is by accomplishing miracles at this point and I think that ship has sailed a long time ago so I really doubt they are the key demographic that will cost him his election.

An embargo on a small island nation has nothing in common with a key strategic ally in the middle east. Why are we comparing these two? Are you for real now

This one clicked. Something about reading the right thing at the right time.

Zerg swarm VS marines

You’re clearly out of your depth. Stop now before you say anything dumber

Edit: for those unaware the United States has one of the hardest paths to immigration/citizenship in the world.

Ok, can we talk about the hand held steamer for a hot second? I got convinced into getting one. Now, can you explain how we do:

1. The collar
2. The seam along the buttons

Because it doesn’t seem to do much for either

Thanks

Rogue black holes are terrifying

In the dark we’ll take off our clothes And there’ll be placing fingers Through the notches of your spine

–Neutral Milk Hotel, Two Headed Boy

Why are so many facts about such a high profile case not known? If you’re not sure, then why state misinformed things with such confidence?

Something is not quite adding up in this story. People are saying he may have been complacent, but for some reason I feel like we’re not getting the full picture. Family or friends didn’t realize he was missing until father’s day? It’s 2024, even if you don’t have cell signal your gps signal stays on. You should be able to at the minimum gauge north, right? Why would you bring scissors on a hike-was he planning to cut snowflakes from leaves? What is going on???

Yes, making movies is not an easy feat. But there’s plenty of good stuff coming out. Don’t know what to tell you.

Both are to blame as neither Hamas nor Israel benefits from peace. Before you start shouting “bothsidesing!!!” understand that I am not endorsing Israel. And don’t say “Hamas had no choice! They are oppressed and have to fight back”. That argument doesn’t hold water either as Hamas’s express objective is the elimination of the state of Israel. And before you say “Where does it say that???” I’ll ask that you familiarize yourself with the charter. And before you say “Well they don’t mean elimination of all Jews, just the state” I’ll point you to any Arab nation where Jews live freely and comfortably. And on and on we go.

Hollywood has been sucking ass lately, but lots of small indie films have been kicking ass. Everything from A24 has been fantastic recently. Lots of good foreign films too

I don’t agree with the conservatives that defend Rittenhouse. There is really no justification for the actions that led to 3 people dying that day. But I can understand how conservatives reached their conclusions about it. In order to counter their positions, I have to first understand how they reached it. Conservatives will always emphasize the legal arguments in the Rittenhouse incident and dismiss the ethical framework that allowed it to happen it the first place. That’s all.

Going to go walk my dog now.

I don’t really remember any more because I had to translate my position through several iterations since it kept getting twisted. I have to figure out how to make my points more direct and succinct. It seems no matter how much preamble and explanation I offer, my position gets twisted one way or another.

All I’m trying to say is that when we argue with the other side (in this case conservatives that defend Rittenhouse) we should be mindful if we are addressing the ethical argument or the legal argument. Typically, conservatives will overstate the legal argument and dismiss the ethical argument.

If I had an elevator pitch it would be this:

>> It’s helpful to steelman the opposition to be able to refute it better. <<

That’s all. I need to go walk my dog now.

You took my position:

open carry is not uncommon in Wi

and transformed it into

people walking around Kenosha with AR’s is a common sight

These are two completely different statements. Is the opposite of uncommon by default common? Even after I conceded that it would still alarm some people. I don’t get it. Is there a different way I should explain myself? I’m so lost :( What am I doing wrong? Maybe I shouldn’t have used the word uncommon. There has to be a better word. Maybe surprising?