It’s pretty clear to me that you have a strong emotional reason to be replying to everyone who’s talking about science in this thread

Not really, as mentioned I’m a STEM major that uses the scientific method on a near daily basis. Any assumptions say a lot more about you than me.

I’ve already mentioned that, proving that you don’t really want conversation and just enjoy seeing your posts on the internet.

more reflective of the world as you’ve experienced it.

Yes, that is the ENTIRE purpose of my post, personal experience trumps peer reviewed study. Not sure why you seem to think this is a negative.

It’s not exactly good faith

Not a single reply, including yours, has been in good faith and most of you didn’t even bother reading more than one or two sentences before you started replying.

your comments as being a bit aggressive and in general not nice.

Yes they are. I am both aggressive and a not nice person in general (it’s medical: EDS) that has been treated exceedingly not nice in this thread and I am responding as such. Are you going to now have the arrogance to tell me I need to change who I am to communicate on beehaw? I see you’re flying your admin flag in this thread so I’m interpreting this entire reply as an implied threat.

It might be a good idea for you to either disengage with this thread

It might be a good idea for you to get bent six ways from Sunday, then establish a research foundation staffed with the world’s most brilliant bentologists in order to research new and interesting ways to get bent in. Then do them.

All at once.

The question you’re asking doesn’t make sense in my worldview

Then your worldview is flawed as science is not yet a complete understanding of everything. I am not invoking the supernatural at any point in my arguments and the fact that you think I am says more about you than it does me.

I am speaking about experiential truth that contradicts current scientific consensus pointing to the fact that current scientific consensus is incomplete. Not trying at all to invoke the supernatural.

Reality is everything, so it’s all that I consider.

How sophomoric and full of yourself you seem.

Can you show me a molecule of empathy? What is the atomic weight of democracy? What standard scale do we measure the love of a mother for her children?

Human thought has created conceptual realities that affect our lives just as surely as gravity. Money, fairness, hope for the future, the concept of states and nations, all of these things are not ‘reality’, they are not inherent in the structure of the universe and do not obey the laws of physics as we understand them.

Look I get it, you’re all doped up on the heady ferment of casting off religious shackles, and you feel that this bright new world absent of supernatural entities is the ‘clear eyed vision’ of objective truth that Sagan spoke about.

I hate to tell you this but your fanatical adherence to atheism has blinded you to the fact that other things exist that do not adhere to your estimation of reality.

And lastly: ‘gnostic atheist’ is a funny title, considering that we have yet to gain complete understanding of the universe so ‘knowing’ that the supernatural doesn’t exist is kind of impossible.

You are just another worshiper of scientism, blind to everything that doesn’t have spin or mass.

Por que no los dos?

It’s been a while, and he sincerely mourned her near daily for years.

There was never even a hint of impropriety at any point, and I know they were both really concerned about the family perception.

It’s still weird but they seem pretty happy together and frankly there isn’t enough happiness in the world to begin with.

But what in the cases where you are not equipped or educated enough to perform the research properly?

This is especially relevant in the field of medicine and nutrition as we have so much more to learn about biology and chemistry and those are subjects almost no layman has the resources or knowledge to study. .

The example I gave to the original top of this thread was the keto diet.

If you found that by eating very few carbs you lost significantly more weight WITHOUT reducing your caloric intake, would you have the biological and chemical knowledge to research this in a meaningful way?

Yet you would have had the physical experience of losing the weight, you would KNOW it works because it worked for you.

Anyone who paints science in such a negative light, as you have

I think you may have some deep-seated issues, I’m a STEM major. Science is pretty awesome, just not the end-all be-all of human experience.

Please provide some specific examples.

Ok. So in the mid-90s the scientific consensus for weight loss was simple: You must maintain a calorie deficit, this is the only way to lose weight.

If you went to your doctor and asked ‘How do I lose weight without burning more calories than I consume’, you would be told it is impossible, against the laws of thermodynamics, and if such a method could be found it would probably involve drugs with strong side effects.

This is not true.

And we’ve known its not true for a while now, but ‘scientific consensus’ refused to acknowledge results that disproved the earlier stated ‘peer reviewed facts’.

You can (easily) lose weight on a low carb diet (keto) even if you exceed your calorie consumption by 1000kcal or more (I was intaking 4500-5000 kcal of food a day and lost over 80 lbs in a pace of two years.

The thing is, scientific consensus is JUST NOW starting to catch up with this, and NOW there are peer-reviewed studies showing losing weight on keto doesn’t require a caloric deficit.

This illustrates my point: There is an arrogance in academia that precludes so many things based on assumptions.

That isn’t even touching the current Reproducibility Crisis that is calling into question decades of supposed ‘objectively peer reviewed’ results.

Perception is inherently flawed and for all intents and purposes cannot be as correct as objective,

I’m sorry but going from 290 to 210lbs in a years time isn’t a flaw in perception.

. The scientific method exists in large part to remove hand-waving guesswork and pure fictitious nonsense

Up until basically only five years ago, nearly all medical professionals called weight loss without caloric deficit pure fictitious nonsense. I think this proves that just because a bunch of out of touch researchers, self-satisfied in their academic prestige, declare something fictitious nonsense that it does not automatically mean that it actually is.

A great example is a feather falling slower than a bowling ball in atmosphere. Your first perception would not lead you to understand the science of gravity as we now know it thanks to rigorous scientific proof.

I sincerely disagree. Everyone on the planet will tell you that the feather will fall slower in atmosphere.

I think you are trying to reference the same experiment in a vacuum.

But I’m getting the impression you are less a practitioner of science than you are a religious fanatic with science as your god.

Until we drop First Past the Post voting for Ranked Choice, we will never be free of the regressive portions of the democratic party.

TO BE CLEAR: This isn’t a ‘both sides’ argument. Only one party tried to overthrow a legal election by force.

That said, voting blue is only necessary because we realistically have no other choice under our current voting structure.

That’s only because the ruling emperors of moral absolutism are so fuckdamn lound and persistent.

It creates the illusion that there are so many more of them than there actually are.

Do you remember the Westboro Baptist Church from a few years back? Constantly all over the media shouting their bigoted hate?

Yeah, it was a group of less than 100 people doing it mainly as a source of income.

But they managed to get themselves in front of every camera for like 5 years in a row. Turns out they didn’t even really believe their hatespeech and just found that suing people who tried to interfere with their horrid protests was super profitable.

Serious question: What do you do when your perceptions and experience contradicts the results of supposedly objective, scientifically peer-reviewed facts?

Do you assume your perceptions are wrong, or do you assume that the supposed ‘objective truth’ you know to be incorrect?

I love this personally. The admins had a vision for the future that was not based in any form of reality, but rather the same wealth extraction tactics that have collapsed so many other services.

Anyone who remembers the Digg exodus, there are reflections of that in reddit’s stittastic new policies.

Just more proof that enshittification isn’t a slow erosion of quality over time but rather direct actions taken by a profit-seeking leadership.

If you go back now and look in older technically complex threads it is a wasteland of [Deleted] and various account scrubber script Lorem Ipsum as a good chunk of decent contributors have left and burned their accounts.

Good.

Looking forward to the day that they don’t prop up google anymore.

The only platform regressives embrace is built on the pillars of bigotry, hypocrisy, and self-centeredness.

They will say anything to turn the situation to their advantage, and there is no truth in them.

WoTC might not sell its DND IP but Hasbro could easily sell the entirety of WoTC to Tencent if they wanted to.

My father is in a relationship with my deceased mother’s sister.

I don’t know how to feel about this.

Firstly: Ew

Secondly: He’s really old and has never been able to take care of himself, so I’m glad that someone is there with him and my aunt really is a kind and sweet person who also is single and both are really too old to date, so maybe it’s a good thing.

Thirdly: Ew Ewewewew EW ew

The profit motive rots everything it touches

Tencent owns Larian

Tencent already has Larian and they did a great job with BG3 so what’s your issue?

As long as they don’t try to turn it into a microtransaction hell like only being able to play the classes you bought in their store, it’s going to be no different except Tencent has a ton of money for funding.

I think you are mistaking infiltration for ‘getting spread out too far’.

Nearly all of what you describe can be most easily attributed to planted agitators.

Well that’s a relief. I got kicked from lemmy.world for a similar sentiment.

Was worried the infection was inescapable.

If you were able to block us, we wouldn’t be able to tell you when you are breaking the rules or provide feedback based on reports of your comments.

Summarizing my other post below:

I have been online since the late eighties and participated actively in hundreds of forums.

And in all that time, the number of meaningful mod/admin replies as compared to just blatant abuses of power, arbitrary justifications, and self-gratifying pontifications has been so vanishingly low that I find in all circumstances it is better to be unaware of their posts.

Same goes for appeals or feedback. Vanishingly small numbers of actual circumstance changing interactions as compared to countless arbitrary justifications, concern trolling, and outright propaganda.

I know you are thinking ‘But here at Beehaw we are different’. And you may indeed be.

But in my experiences, in the long run, the chance of this being true approaches zero. This universal for nearly every online forum. The only place I have seen avoid that in the long term is somethingawful and that’s because they charge for accounts. For free account forums the tendency will always be towards enshittification.

If my natural communication method, which I have taken decades to refine and improve, breaks the rules of a forum in such a way as I am to be banned, then I really have no business being in that forum to begin with and whatever justification the mod picked out of a hat for my banning is kind of meaningless to me.

I am not needlessly acerbic, I do not pick fights, but I do respond harshly to hostile replies as noted above.

And of course most mods will just remove of ban both participants, ignoring who the aggressor is because that is the nature of hierarchy to be radically out of touch with those they have been privileged to administer over. I am fully aware of how protected bullies are in this world and really don’t want to waste any energy reading about an authoritarian’s opinion on my method of discourse.

Let me be clear: The ONLY site I have ever been banned from was reddit for posting ‘Punching nazis is a moral good’, and please tell me now if this is a violation here and I will just delete my account and leave.

Me blocking an admin does nothing to degrade the experience of others, and serves to greatly enhance my own.

which seemed like it implied being held to any moderation standard was problematic.

I think that’s more of your interpretation than my intention.

In nearly 3 and a half decades of heavy internet use, admin and mod messages in general are more annoyance than value and I find that my experience is better just filtering them all out. I know that probably applies less here than in most other forums I’ve participated and probably sounds like I’m being personally hostile.

I’m sincerely not, you seem like a pleasant and well written person and we probably align in a lot of our ideals.

But I’d still block you if I had the opportunity, again because of your role, not your person. Keep in mind Lemmy’s blocking doesn’t prevent you replying like reddit’s did so there really should be no implications in me wanting to block admin replies. You can still illustrate to the community what my rules failure is and I can be mercifully free of arbitrary justifications.

Even though I do not have experience at such a large scope, I understand being a mod/admin isn’t easy, I co-modded /r/talesfromtamriel for a few years and even as a niche sub with a positive community, it was still a task to handle all the spam and harassment.

So I want you to know I value your effort and have been very much doing my best to be a contributive member of this instance as I was on early reddit, but I want to make this very clear: I would still block you, and every admin and mod on the instance if I could. And I have that sentiment for every single forum I have been on since AOL chatroom days.

To be clear, the only site I have ever been banned from in my entire time on the internet has been reddit for saying ‘Punching nazis is a moral good’. I am not a rabble rouser or deliberate antagonist (with the exception of auto antagonism towards white nationalists and I will gladly take any ban you want to give me for shouting down nazis) and truly value the good online communities I participate in.

And I like beehaw, and most of the people I’ve spoken to here are quality posters. This feels a lot like old reddit for the most part. I want to be a longtime member and contributed tens of thousands of words a week.

But I don’t really want to see anything from any mod or admin because if it’s positive, fine I don’t need to be aware of it. If it’s negative, then I will find out the results organically. Again I know this will feel like a personal attack but it really isn’t: I am better off not knowing what those roles type because in nearly every circumstance there is an implicit or explicit misuse of authority that will piss me off to no end and cause me to reply in ways that seem to only antagonize the situation.

And you will say ‘But here, we are different. We moderate with a light touch and only when necessary’.

And I have heard that so many, many times before and I can count the number of times that has been true on one hand of a clumsy woodshop teacher.

And you may be correct, and frankly this place has the BEST chance I’ve seen of being true to that maxim, and I am thankful that this place exists because of it.

And I know moderation is necessary, there are truly rancid and destructive people out there that need to have their posts removed, and accounts banned for the betterment of the community.

And I know it is a thankless, no-pay job that exposes you to the worst the internet has to offer (and that is saying something).

That said. I’d still block you if I could. I don’t mean that personally, it just works out better in the long run.