• RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca
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    4 hours ago

    The problem is that there is a not-insignificant number of people that want the US to annex Canada.

    In the US, about 15% of Trump voters would support annexation of Canada, even if Canada didn’t want it. That’s about 1 in 7.

    https://vancouversun.com/news/trump-51st-state-most-americans-have-no-interest-in-canada-annex

    The disturbing thing is that about 18% of Canadian Conservatives would support annexation. That’s almost 1 in 5. Most of us know five Conservatives, so chances are you know someone who is essentially a traitor. I think Conservative supporters need to be aware that this is the company they keep.

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/large-majority-of-canadians-reject-trumps-annexation-overtures-poll-suggests/

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      I think Conservative supporters need to be aware that this is the company they keep.

      Going to be voting conservative this upcoming election given that they’re the only party supporting legal & registered firearms owners. While this is one of my hobbies ultimately I don’t want the 2nd amendment, I don’t want to be known as an American, I like how our country does daily background checks on people purchasing firearms and if Trump ever does decide to go forth trying to annex us I’ll do everything I can to defend my home. 🇨🇦

      If liberals or NDP spent more time working with legal firearms owners and put more focus in reoffending criminals instead of attacking our community, banning & confiscating our property, maybe I would consider voting for them.

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      The one in five conservatives who want to be annexed by America know its the only way they can get American citizenship since they are probably low education and low skilled labour that America doesn’t even want. Otherwise they would just move to America.

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      That 18% number is based on polls that may be kinda susp, but even if it were true a lot of what I’ve heard from the dumbass gallery has been:

      “Cool, then our dollar would finally be equal to USD” and “It’ll be easier to get flights to the US and Disneyland” or “Then we can vote in a proper government they’re and fix things”

      I doubt the appetite for such goes much past a lack of critical thinking into what the realities would be

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        This may be so but as we’ve seen in other contexts - e.g., Brexit and the last US election - these are exactly the people that can do incredible damage that can last generations.

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          Absolutely. I’d also hazard that a certain portion of these “ideas” actually come from agents working social media etc to promote them .

          They’re not just throwing out “DEI bad” but also “and wouldn’t you like…”

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      The grass isn’t greener over here. It’s pay to play in a bucket full of crabs.

      Also understand the psychological games being played. All this shit is psychological marketing social manipulation. You need a strong grasp understanding… I couldn’t even say what specifically but… But it’s almost impossible to get sucked into it even if you understand it.

      It’s like just talking about the drama they are presenting is to already be failing at fighting it. But the paradox is you still have to fight it… Somehow.

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        Oh please fuck right off with this apologist bullshit.

        I don’t care what people think, and it wouldn’t matter if I did, as long as they keep their treasonous sympathies in their own head.

        The moment they voice it or act on it, then it becomes expression. And freedom of expression does not extend to treasonous or seditious speech or action, as it’s defined in the criminal code.

        And anyway, where freedom of expression applies, it only protects against government suppression or legal repercussions. It has nothing to say about me making their lives miserable and making sure everyone knows they’re treasonous Yank sympathizers and just generally untrustworthy pieces of shit. And these people know that which is why they rarely make their views known publicly.

        Well that, and they know that if they out themselves they’ll be the first up against the wall if shit gets ugly.