https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39616364?scrollToComments=true
https://lemmy.world/u/sag@lemm.ee
https://lemmy.world/modlog/?userId=1957570
Underage, you will be unbanned when you turn 18 (happy birthday in advance)
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39616364?scrollToComments=true
https://lemmy.world/u/sag@lemm.ee
https://lemmy.world/modlog/?userId=1957570
Underage, you will be unbanned when you turn 18 (happy birthday in advance)
Federation between instances is like an archive in a state of flux. You can still access feddit.de content despite the service being down.
They didn’t go to lemmy.world with an account? They went to https://lemm.ee/c/fediverse@lemmy.world with a lemm.ee account. For my comment to reach you, it has to go through Cloudfair as lemmy.world uses them for DDoS protection. Am I subject to Cloudfair’s TOS?
It’s perfectly within lemmy.world’s remit to ban a user for whatever reasons they feel like, I just don’t think banning a remote user for TOS violation is a good one.
You aren’t answering the question about posting content.
Okay, well, they can still go there, it’s just that their content no longer federates to lemmy.world. I guess everyone should be happy?
That’s not even close to equivalent. If the ToS for dbzer0 included, say, something ridiculous, like “Don’t use the letter S”, and you used the letter S, would you posting here be a violation of the ToS, or not? Regardless of whether you think the ToS is reasonable.
If ToS aren’t going to be enforced, you may as well not have them.
IDK, its kinda like lemm.ee making the post on behalf of him.
It won’t federate to anyone, it’s the Group actor that forwards content to subscribers.
I think it is actually. If posting to lemmy.world comm, who then forwards that content to comm subs, makes me a user of lemmy.world’s service, then I don’t see how I wouldn’t be a user of Cloudfair’s services in that case. I’ve still technically initiated an interaction with Cloudfair servers, even if indirectly.
Well no, I’m not a dbzer0 user so I don’t think I’m subject to their TOS. If it was in the comm or instance rules, then I’d be violating those, but TOS is for users of the service.
Where are you getting the idea that I’m saying TOS shouldn’t be enforced? I’m not saying that, I’m disputing who it applies to.
Okay. So again, what’s the problem? Everyone should be happy.
Because Cloudflare’s whole deal is that they provide a service to sites, not users.
Humor me for a moment - if you go to a website, directly, do you have to abide by their terms of service?
You said, and I quote:
No one on lemmy.world will see anything Sag posts, ~ 1/3 of all Lemmy users. Not the end of the world, but it can be demotivating.
No, a TOS is a contract, you have to agree to it to be subject to it.
Remote user, i.e. someone who’s account isn’t on lemmy.world. Local accounts on lemmy.world should still be subject to the TOS.
The problem remains that the second lemmy.world allows content created by someone underage to federate onto their server, they probably have some legal responsibility regarding that data. And if there is personal information in there, it gets tricky pretty fast in some jurisdictions.
LW don’t want legal problems, that’s literally all there is to this.
Whether LW can enforce their ToS on remote users is a different question, and even if the answer to that is “no” then they could still include that clause in every single LW community’s rules.
If they do, we’re going to see a wave of communities migration away from LW