Well put Mr. Tusk.

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    Intent aside, wouldn’t it be easier to shore up current defences? Ukraine is already the NATO crumple zone, it would make more sense to keep them at that line.

    Now for blind conjecture. Perhaps trump sold out Ukraine to allow Russia to have the minerals and oil of Ukraine. In exchange, Europe gets the constant threat of WW3. Americans, scared to stay where they’re at, but are more terrified by the prospects of open war as it sweeps across countries, stay on American shores.

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      I don’t like referring to people fighting for their culture, society, family and future as a “crumple zone”.

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        I’m not crazy about the concept, either, but I’m also going to call a spade a spade. When Ukraine falls, the front will shift to new borders, introducing war and displacement to new areas. If Russia advances, all of Europe will have been able to help prevent it, but did not. They would have let Ukraine get ground to dust for a few years, only to fall anyway. Sure, they helped a little, with training and supplies, but the death toll is uniquely Ukrainian.

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        Seriously, what in the lack-of-empathy did I just read? Empathy isn’t that hard. Imagine you lived there. Your loved ones. How would you feel about it then?

        Edit for grammar.

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          Empathy might be hard. It just depends on the Person, mental state, perspective, etc.

          If empathy would be easy, then why did Trump win?

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            Because propaganda hits harder. They have empathy for the poor kids that are being forced to be transgender and gay by their parents. They have empathy for the people losing their jobs and being raped by immigrants.