• commander@lemmings.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    10 days ago

    I don’t think Zelensky is the hero everyone is making him out to be. He’s a regular guy in an unenviable position. He’s not doing a spectacular job one way or the other.

    I feel like most of the reverence surrounding him is just fluff and propaganda.

    • Grace@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      6 days ago

      An unenviable position sounds like Ukraine is not getting ad-free streaming and he needs to negotiate. He’s a regular guy who for years has been successfully defending his country from a world superpower invading, and now another superpower jumping in to help their invaders. Literally the fact that Ukraine still exists means he’s doing a spectacular job.

      I think you have, in fact, fallen for the widespread propaganda…or are trying to spread it.

      • commander@lemmings.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 days ago

        Literally the fact that Ukraine still exists means he’s doing a spectacular job.

        I think you have, in fact, fallen for the widespread propaganda…or are trying to spread it.

        Irony.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        10 days ago

        The NATO bloc is generating it because it benefits them to make their own citizens think the war in Ukraine is going spectacularly well. It’s for morale.

        • Kacarott@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          9 days ago

          It might be ignorant, but I certainly don’t get the impression at all that things are going well in Ukraine despite being exposed to this propaganda, nor do I see how it benefits NATO for its citizens to believe so. It seems to me that believing Russia is weak would make people value NATO less.

          But thanks for stopping by to insult me for asking a question, really love that attitude.

            • Kacarott@aussie.zone
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              9 days ago

              And here I am discussing, trying to not disregard ideas I am cynical of, and instead ask questions to gain understanding. Apparently that is discouraged here.

              Thank you for the resource, next time lead with that and skip the insults.

              • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                3 hours ago

                But thanks for stopping by to insult me for asking a question, really love that attitude.

                Thank you for the resource, next time lead with that and skip the insults.

                @yogthos@lemmy.ml, please don’t jump on the uninformed who are engaged in apparent good faith.

                I dissuade Party members from putting down people who do not understand. Even people who are unenlightened and seemingly bourgeois should be answered in a polite way. Things should be explained to them as fully as possible. I was turned off by a person who did not want to talk to me because I was not important enough. Maurice just wanted to preach to the converted, who already agreed with him. I try to be cordial, because that way you win people over. You cannot win them over by drawing the line of demarcation, saying you are on this side and I am on the other; that shows a lack of consciousness. After the Black Panther Party was formed, I nearly fell into this error. I could not understand why people were blind to what I saw so clearly. Then I realized that their understanding had to be developed. ― Huey P. Newton

  • Random Dent@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    10 days ago

    I really feel for Zelenskyy, it’s such a terrible position to be in.

    On the one hand, it must be galling to have to play nice with Trump. You know his word is worthless and he’s going to betray Ukraine the first chance he gets, which will probably cost a lot of Ukrainian lives.

    On the other hand, if you hard-ball Trump and tell him to fuck off, the war continues and Ukraine probably loses, which also costs a lot of Ukrainian lives.

    I really don’t see any way this doesn’t end badly, unless Europe can somehow step up and get Russia to back down. I don’t really see that happening though. I think Ukraine’s fate was sealed when Trump won the election TBH.