Analysis: The confrontation revealed Trump’s deep impatience with Ukraine and its democratically elected president, and his persistent defense of Russia’s autocratic ruler.

Summary

A dramatic Oval Office confrontation between Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy underscored Trump’s hostility toward Ukraine and preference for negotiating with Russia.

Unlike past presidents who handled tense exchanges with allies privately, Trump and JD Vance berated Zelenskyy on camera, siding with Russia over a democratic ally.

This marked a break from decades of bipartisan U.S. policy that prioritized supporting democracies for stability and economic benefits.

Republicans largely praised Trump’s stance, while Democrats and European leaders firmly backed Ukraine. The meeting ended with Zelenskyy being asked to leave after warning that Putin would eventually attack NATO countries.

  • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
    218·
    2 days ago

    Because the only safeguard I’m aware of is impeachment and removal, which requires both chambers of Congress to act against Trump and I just don’t believe that’s going to happen while Republicans control both chambers and impeachment certainly isn’t going to “kick in” as if it’s some automatic process.

    I believe you’re incorrect, I believe Congress at some point will act, and that’s what I was speaking of. Even a Republican lead one.

    You’re seeing some split by Republicans, objecting to how Zelensky was treated yesterday at the White House, and up to now you hadn’t seen any division whatsoever.

    At some point they’ll act, if it got to that point.

    So I’m genuinely curious about what’s got you so optimistic

    Oh I’m definately not optimistic, it’s going to be a long three years and tenish months, that’s for sure.

    I’m just not hyperbolic about it.

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    • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      2 days ago

      Some Republicans also spoke out against J6 before they all decided it was a regular tourist visit and the violent mob were all political prisoners.

      Let’s see how they feel about this debacle in a week.

    • Valthorn
      71·
      2 days ago

      The last safe guard is the second amendment. I hope enough liberals will realise that in time.

        • Gongin@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          2 days ago

          There liberal comment was literally because they have guns also that they hope they will act on the 2nd to save us. For someone correcting everyone you sure are misinterpreting a lot.

          Also we are not close to 0%. I’d say at least >30% by made up metrics. Congress will not act, too many maga. Scotus just proved with their stay of USAID that they will back Trump. Vance openly said no one can enforce the Judicial as the US Marshals are under the executive. It’s bleak.

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            2 days ago

            There liberal comment was literally because they have guns also that they hope they will act on the 2nd to save us.

            Well the stereotype is that liberals dont’ have guns. /shrug

            For someone correcting everyone you sure are misinterpreting a lot.

            So, we’re not allot to disagree with others here on Lemmy? Just read, and move on?

            Otherwise, one persons correction is another persons disagreement and discussion.

            Also we are not close to 0%. I’d say at least >30% by made up metrics.

            Not that I agree with the made-up 30% number, but I don’t think its time to call for everyone to know where their guns are at at 30%.

            Congress will not act, too many maga.

            Congress will not act YET.

            If you can say anything about Congress, they REALLY care about themselves and their money and their jobs. The second Trump risks any of those, things will be afoot at the Circle K, regardless of MAGA.

            Scotus just proved with their stay of USAID that they will back Trump.

            That’s not how SCOTUS works, with it comes with temporary stays. There’s been times when they’ve stayed something, then did the exact opposive when hearing the case formally.

            Vance openly said no one can enforce the Judicial as the US Marshals are under the executive. It’s bleak.

            I’ll definately give you this one. No VP of either party should ever say something like that. And the non-supreme courts will pimp-slap him back in line.

            Having said that, that bluster without action is < 30%. They’re doing allot of ‘rope-a-dope’ as well as actions. Judge on the actions, not on the words.

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