I’ve checked the fedipact signatories, but they all seem to be lemmy instances.
Please keep in mind that with an open forum you could just as likely be talking to a Meta Employee / Contractor vs a regular human person. So when you start reading things so early on a platform that just separated from corporate overreach and those people you are reading are suddenly pro corporate, do a little critical thinking
Since Threads isn’t federating yet, there’s no particular rush to announce a stance. Especially while the developer is still playing catch up following the user growth.
Yep, and if Threads is enforcing the same TOS as Instagram, there’s no way that Meta is going to open the doors to the fediverse in general. I expect that when Meta does enable federation, it will be with a small number of vetted servers that agree to follow their TOS as well.
I understand people’s concerns with Threads, and don’t want to touch it with a ten foot pole myself, but a lot of the reaction posts are sensationalized.I understand people’s concerns with Threads
No, I don´t think that you really understand the concern. Specially if, as you say, Threads will slowly federate this and that server, poisoning the fediverse.
If Threads begins federating, the “ten foot pole” is going to touch you, like it or not.
Independently from what Meta wants, do you want to federate with them?
Mine won’t nor will any of my other 3 Fediverse servers.
I know of a number of Mastodon servers that have already de-federated or limited threads.net, even though it does not yet connect to the Fediverse. Some are even limiting or suspending connections to servers that refuse to de-federate from threads.net and are trying to pressure other servers to do the same.
An Admin has no right to force their personal agendas onto all the people who are on their servers. People are competent enough to make their own decisions and can individually decide to block or limit Threads. I block servers on my server to protect members from hateful people.
I will limit threads.net if their moderation is inadequate, just as I do now for a number of Mastodon servers that don’t do much to keep hatred and offensive content off their servers. This won’t prevent anyone from following someone or being followed by someone, on threads.net. It just means that people on my server need to approve being followed and that posts from threads.net won’t show up in the public timeline.
At this point, I haven’t heard of any Kbin instances planning to de-federate but there’s a ton of yacking about it on Mastodon. I finally muted the “threads” hashtag to get some peace from it.
I disagree that the admin of an instance doesn’t have the right to moderate it how they wish. By joining the server you agree to let that admin control what content you see on your instance. That’s how instances work. It’s still on you to agree/disagree with the admin and how they run the server. That’s why other servers exist and you have the complete right to associate with who you wish, or even run your own instance and run it how you like.
I do not agree with the people wanting to control other servers by trying to force defederating from threads. Independent admins running their own server is what the Fediverse is built upon.
This.
The nature of the Fediverse is that if you don’t agree with your admin’s running of things, you can pick a new admin. Or become one yourself.
The admin has every right to decide what their website interacts with.
Im not going to deny the threat of Extend/Embrace/Extinguish, but everyone defederating now, and threatening to defederate all other instances that dont do so as well, comes across as an incredible hasty and mostly an emotionally driven decision.
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Come on, one thread is all about “if we do nothing now in two years Threads will have swallowed the Internet”, and here it’s like “if we do something now we’re all drama queens”.
Personally I think it’s all very simple. Meta has an agenda, which is monetizing data through all means available.
This is not up to debate. It’s a corporation, it has no morals and no other goal other than generating profit by selling users data to advertisers.
I’m saying this as a statement of facts.
The purpose of the fediverse so far is in complete contrast with that, so I think it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that Meta’s ultimate goal will be to alter the fediverse to suit their own goal.
Therefore, telling them to go fuck themselves while we still can seems like a very reasonable thing to do.
Everyone is free and welcome to make thir own servers, and so is Meta.
However, admins are also free to defederate from the servers they deem dangerous or inappropriate for any reason, and fuck, Meta has shown thousands of times that they’re not to be trusted.
It’s not the quality of the moderation which is in question but the embrace-extend-extinguish equation.
