Repost from Risa@startrek

As a millennial, the Trek VS Wars debates always confused me. Star Trek is philosophy and political science class in a scifi, flavor of the week format. And Star Wars is fantasy in a science fiction setting. Why can’t we all just love them for what they are?

Here we see Deeana Troi poking fun at how quickly a couple retcons about family and the force sort of ruin the first half of a New Hope. If Luke could call out to Leia at the end of ESB then how did Vader not know here?

  • paddirn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    193·
    10 months ago

    The closest Star Wars has come to Star Trek was in The Last Jedi when they came up with that stupid bullshit storyline about a hexamajigit door blocking them from disabling a hyperspeed whatchamacallit. They technobabbled their way into going to Casino World, that’s a very Star Trek thing to do, but otherwise, Star Wars is a fantasy world with sci-fi trappings.

    Deanna Troi was a glorified HR rep who dressed very inappropriately for the job she was supposed to be doing.

    • themeatbridge@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      10 months ago

      And then the Super Hacker Cameo guy predictably betrays them and disappears forever, and the super important maguffin they needed him for wasn’t at all necessary, and the entire plot thread could have been cut from the movie without changing any of it.

      • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        Among all the bullshit I could call TLJ on, this is the most egregious.

        It’s writing 101 that you cut what doesn’t serve a purpose, if you can remove an entire chunk of your story and nothing changes, then you wrote an unnecessary plot point and should rework the script to account for it and make the characters do something more useful, creative, or intelligent.

        Lazy. Lazy-ass writing. That’s all that movie is.

        Have you ever even thought about how much time it would have taken Finn to construct a stretcher and drag Rose? Forget the fact that they don’t shoot him for a second, this dude covers like five miles in an implied 3-5 minutes. Finn is a super soldier apparently.

        It feels like they made the trailer in a total vacuum, and then had to write the movie around the scenes they’d already shot for the trailer. Working their way backwards to design the plot.

        • themeatbridge@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          10 months ago

          It felt like I was watching someone play with their action figures.

          And then Finn is like racing at the AT-ATs, and it’s like “fvrrrrshooo” but then at the last second, Rose comes out of nowhere and is like “krshpoosh” and then is like “we have to protect love” or something.

      • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        No, because she’s in a military style organization where everyone else has to wear uniforms and for some reason she’s just excused from that for who knows why.