• michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    None of that is real. Health care companies have been abusing the population pretty hard for a very long time. They kept rolling dice until they crapped out.

    People hate them enough that a lot of people actually support or at least approve of what he did. Its not much more complicated than that.

    Why would you be able to launder money by donating it to a random dudes death penalty defence fund?

    • meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works
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      3 hours ago

      Actually, my money laundering theory holds water. Ever heard of shell companies and dark money? The sudden surge pattern matches known laundering schemes. Do your research beyond mainstream propaganda.

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        3 hours ago

        Money laundering has an input and output both are controlled in order to move money from a dirty source for instance money earned on selling drugs and other criminal enterprises to a legal one so you can spend it freely without drawing the wrong kind of legal attention. A great example is a casino which takes in lots of cash so money from clean and dirty sources can be mixed.

        Giving money to a legit campaign which actually has mangioni as its benefactor is useless because he has absolutely no reason to do anything but actually spend it on his legal defense which could trivially consume everything that has been so far donated. Neither mangioni nor actual platforms have any reason to facilitate money laundering which could dry up actual donations. There are about a million easier ways to move far more money.

        Of course I’ve heard of shell companies and dark money. Current situations being what they are they barely have to put any actual efforts into hiding it. Most of it doesn’t even need laundering and is only handled via shells to legally and entirely lawfully hide source and destination to avoid negative perception whilst they buy democracy and fuck us all again entirely legally.

        DO yOuR oWN rEAsrch is a cartoonishly boring response. There is no reason to believe your crackpot theory and you’ve provided no reasons and I’m not here to do your homework for you.

        • meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works
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          3 hours ago

          Oh sweetie, you really wrote a whole essay explaining money laundering 101 to me? That’s adorable. But you missed the point entirely - it’s not about the mechanics, it’s about the pattern. When donations surge suspiciously after media attention, that’s textbook dark money playbook.

          And yes, I know how shell companies work. I also know how “perfectly legal” money movements can hide in plain sight. Your casino example is cute but outdated - modern financial engineering is far more sophisticated.

          But please, write another wall of text explaining how donations work. I’m sure your Wikipedia-level understanding will enlighten us all.

          • michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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            2 hours ago

            Donations surging after millions of people become aware of something is … what happens when millions of people become aware of something. I’m aware things are more complicated. I tried to keep it simple enough that you could understand it. Let me ask you a question in small words.

            What evidence of any kind do you have that the donations are money laundering?

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              2 hours ago

              Ah, so now we’re pivoting to “Mangione has no reason to launder money” and “a million easier ways exist.” Cute deflection, but it doesn’t address the actual point: the pattern of suspicious surges in donations post-media attention. That’s the hallmark of laundering—using a legitimate front to obscure questionable sources.

              Your casino analogy? Outdated and irrelevant here. Laundering today thrives on exploiting public-facing campaigns precisely because they appear “too obvious” to question. And your claim that platforms wouldn’t facilitate this? Laughable. Platforms are tools, not moral arbiters.

              But sure, keep dismissing this as a “crackpot theory.” If you’re so confident, feel free to provide your sources proving why this pattern is beyond suspicion. I’ll wait.