• Maeve@kbin.earth
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    13 hours ago

    It would mean more if Israel weren’t actively genociding Palestinians.

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      10 hours ago

      Oh look, someone who thinks that “Jew” and “Israeli” are synonyms.

      As always, no matter where I live, no matter how much I say I hate Israel, I will always be a foreigner and a Zionist.

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        10 hours ago

        Really? You really think that? I know that plenty of Jewish outside of Israel don’t support the current genocide of Palestinians, and I know plenty do.

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          9 hours ago

          I think you sure as fuck implied it, when you said:

          It would mean more if Israel weren’t actively genociding Palestinians.

          Why would it mean more unless Jew and Israeli were synonyms?

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              4 hours ago

              Y E S

              Log the fuck out, go outside, and meet some people. A lot of us grew up raised by holocaust survivors and we have very strong opinions that Israel’s genocide against the people of Palestine is truly and wholly horrible.

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              Ah, I see, so it isn’t “Jew = Israeli,” it’s “Jew = Pro genocide.” Totally different.

              Do you also expect every Muslim to denounce ISIS every time they face bigotry themselves? I bet you don’t.

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                  9 hours ago

                  You’re evading. I didn’t ask if they were. I asked if you expected it. Do you? Or are only Jews expected to denounce genocide every time they face bigotry in your view?

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                    8 hours ago

                    No. I don’t expect any decent behavior from anyone, but the United States administration should apologize for creating conditions that caused it, and fix it. And these circumstances are actively different, and I will try to be more sensitive. I don’t expect you to self reflect, since several people have called your words/reactions out in various threads, but that’s no reason I shouldn’t.

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          10 hours ago

          They didn’t deny the genocide, but asked why that’s relevant. Jewish people are separate from Israel, even though Israel wants to muddy the waters. It’s like blaming all of Christianity for the holocaust because hitler wanted to put a Christian veneer on it.

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            8 hours ago

            We blame every Christian for the crushed, crusades so I hardly see a difference. I painted with words that would have been understood by Christians and he’s in my rl community, forgetting that I’m on a world platform where my meaning may be misunderstood, and I’m sorry for that. We just know each other well here and even though we sometimes disagree, we don’t always take it personally. I need to be more considerate.

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              We do? Speak for yourself. I don’t know anyone who blames a single living Christian for anything that happened hundreds of years ago, mostly because I don’t associate with bigots and that’s a bigoted view, like the ones you’re displaying.

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          10 hours ago

          I’m Jewish. I do not support Israel and I never have. The ADL does not speak for me.

          But I’m going to guess you’ll call that typical Jewish lies.

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          11 hours ago

          Right, it’s not a genocide, they’re simply killing everyone that is living in a specific region. In fact, between the dead there aren’t exclusively Palestinians, but also some aid workers, volunteers from western countries and sometimes even their own kidnapped citizens. So it is not strictly a dictionary definition of genocide, rather a “mass murdering of the population”.

          In fact, I don’t see why they’re paying billions to Google to place AI on weapons when the algorithms seems to be like “hospital = target” and “if it moves = target”