I didn’t mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(
I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. “Everything’s lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time”) type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I’ve heard from women irl a lot.
When you make a sweeping statement about women being dishonest in their accusations, this is unfounded. Men are statistically extremely unlikely to be falsely accused of sexual violence by a woman. A man does not need to consider women to be a potential threat.
When you make a sweeping statement about men being violent against women, this is not unfounded. Women are statistically very likely to experience violence from men. That doesn’t mean all or even a majority of men, but enough that women have to consider men to be a potential threat.
By trying to equate the two, you serve only to dismiss the credibility of very often real experiences from women. This harms women very much, especially in a society where they’re already seldom believed by the people who need to hear them, such as the authorities.
It is not sexism toward men to point out that men are the ones committing violence against women specifically, it’s a fact backed up by evidence. She said men because it’s not a woman who is realistically going to be a threat to her. Men ≠ all men. Also, the national murder statistics point to men specifically being the problem so I hardly see what the difference is.
If this woman said “too bad black people exist.” Would you rush to defend her with statistics. Stop being a hypocrite injustice is injustice doesn’t matter who does it or who they do it against.
No, because I also take into consideration the reasons for those statistics. Black people are demonstrably discriminated against and profiled by authorities, and are often suspected of, arrested and even convicted for crimes they did not commit.
The police, an entity dominated by men, do not unfairly discriminate against men. Men are actually committing these acts of violence against women, and we have non-police statistics that corroborate this, unlike the police statistics for racial minorities.
So you trust the institutions to deliver you news you agree with but not that you disagree with? Listen to yourself. How desperate are you to justify misplaced anger. Men aren’t the cause of your problems. And you won’t fix anything without them.
There is actual evidence of discrimination against racial minorities from the authorities, not discrimination against men, of whom the authorities are predominately comprised of. And as I said before, on the matter of violence against women, the authorities’ crime statistics are not the only evidence corroborating this. I’ve posted links to different sources throughout the thread if you care to look.
I think you must be assuming my gender because these are not my problems. I’m not a woman. I don’t need to be to speak out against discrimination against women from men. And I agree, we can’t fix this without the cooperation of men, of whom can hold other men accountable, because as you and many others in this thread have shown, men won’t listen to women about this at all.
I don’t believe I used incorrect pronouns anywhere. Please point out where and I will edit my comments. Sorry if I have.
Saying that men aren’t the cause of my problems when I’m talking about women’s experiences with violence against them from men. They aren’t my problems, but nevertheless I care about them.
Yeah? I’m not saying otherwise. I don’t like the default for the term “men” implying murderer. You’re insisting it’s okay to call men murderers because they’re not saying all men are murderers and men have murdered people in the past. I don’t think your mind will change on this and I’m satisfied with everything I’ve said so I’ll leave replies unanswered from here. I’m sure re-reading my original comment with a clear head should help you understand my view better.
Stop misrepresenting my arguments. I’m not saying men are murderers because men have murdered people in the past, it’s because to this day the people responsible for the most murders (and other violent crime toward women) are men. It’s specifically an issue with men!
I’ve also said everything I feel I need to. Frankly, I’m exhausted with you too. I hope you get a sense of perspective.