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    3 days ago

    California has its own ports, national guard and most of the United States naval power for that side of the planet. Again they can try, it’s all well and good to say on paper but once red states light up in unrest because the government tap shuts off things get real unpredictable real fast.

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      The national guard is the federal reserve military and Trump can override any governor’s whenever. And given that the armed services tend to swing Republican, having them commit mass insubordination seems unlikely.

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          Just to clarify, I’m not arguing in support of CA withholding taxes or trying to obstruct with the guard. I’m arguing that both of those ideas are terrible and riddled with holes. But you’re right, those ideas are also dangerous.

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        No. The national guard was a compromise to remove militias and this a large part of state autonomy. They are beholden to the state first and the federal government second, the national guard can be called by the president and a governor can refuse the order or recall troops if the order is contrary to “actual service of the United States”.

        Similarly military forces don’t actually swing hard right, they’re center right I’ll agree there.

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          Trump would just do what Eisenhower did in the late 50’s - use the Insurrection Act to federalize the Guard.

          I’m all for a way to stick it to Trump, but not paying taxes doesn’t have an easy solution. The collection is done per person / household, enforcement can easily be done nationally by garnishing wages, and the guard can’t stop that.

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            Bro you seen to misunderstand how payroll works.

            If I work 8 hrs and get a paycheck that paycheck only has deductions because the payroll software calculated withholding and withheld it.

            If I work the same 8hrs and my boss figures withholdings all they have to do it cut me a personal or business check for the correct amount and store the withholding of better yet the employee stores the withholding in bond.

            Nothing is magically withheld automatically and teleported to the federal Treasury.