In Denmark when a car reaches 6 years, it needs to be safety checked to be used on the roads. After that it’s every 2nd years.

Tesla model 3 managed these safety checks extremely poorly, with 3 times the average failure rate.

In total, 1,392 errors were found on the Tesla model, which is three times as many compared to the other electric cars.

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  • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    This is probably some drive by wire shit

    No, none of the model 3’s use drive by wire, it’s a classic steering column like other cars.

    however there is a case running between Tesla and the FDM because the bushings that the steering wheel adjustment mechanism is mounted with has some play in it, which is supposedly what the inspections are rejecting them with as play in the steeringg column, even though there is not any play in the actual steering column itself. Shitty quality, absolutely, but not an inherent safety risk like play in the steering column.

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      So Tesla just can’t make it properly like every other manufacturer can, and have done for 50 years!

      Wow, that’s kind of a worse look for Tesla.

      ejecting them with as play in the steeringg column, even though there is not any play in the actual steering column itself.

      That’s probably because AFAIK there is zero play allowed in the steering wheel. It’s not enough that the column is OK if the rest isn’t.

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        This goes back to pre-Musk Tesla. Their original idea was to treat car manufacture as a greenfield problem, and they deliberately didn’t hire anyone from the “legacy” industry. They assumed that their knowledge of high-tech manufacturing and supply-chain optimization would be much better than anything existing carmakers were doing. But they soon discovered that Teslas are, in most ways, just like other cars, and the brilliant manufacturing processes they came up with weren’t really any different than those of any other carmaker, except the quality was worse. So at some point, a while before Musk stuck his nose in, they started quietly recruiting industry veterans to sort out the quality issues, which kept getting worse as production scaled up.

        Since Musk has been in, the progress that Tesla had made in addressing quality has again gone down the shitter, due to his arrogance and inability to grasp engineering detail.

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          This goes back to pre-Musk Tesla.

          Tesla started in July of 2003 and Musk showed up in February of 2004 with VC money, becoming employee number 4 IIRC. How many vehicles do you figure that Martin Eberhard, Marc Tarpenning, and Ian Write built in their garage before Elon showed up? Couple hundred maybe?

          Since Musk has been in…

          Musk has been involved since 9 months after Eberhard and Tarpenning started the company. He was involved with the design of the Roadster, which he and others won an award for in 2006. That was two years before he became the CEO.

          Elon is a disappointment and has truly become another billionaire douchebag jackass but that’s no reason to rewrite history. Practically speaking Elon has been involved with Tesla since the beginning.

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          due to his arrogance and inability to grasp engineering detail.

          Yeah I just joked with my wife that Musk probably told the engineers to cut the number of parts in the steering from 5 to 3.
          Obviously simplified, since it’s way more parts. In general it’s true that fewer parts is better, but Musk is absolutely insane on the idea, to the degree that basic functionality suffers or is even completely removed.

          I admit I was actually very impressed with Tesla early on, and the Tesla S, and I cheered for them. They helped make electric cars cool IMO. But I quickly began to notice things that I did not like at all. Like his insane promises on FSD when he discontinued cooperation with a company that actually knew what they were doing. His reaction was to spew bullshit about how Tesla was leading the field.
          Also his complete disregard for conditions in the work place, both safety and regarding racism. And his claim that working for him was a “lifestyle” helping to change the world.
          That last part was an enormous red flag! That this man is likely an insane megalomaniac.

          I really really hope the Nazi salutes will backfire in a big way. But probably not.

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        That’s probably because AFAIK there is zero play allowed in the steering wheel. It’s not enough that the column is OK if the rest isn’t.

        The thing is, there isn’t any play WRT turning of the steering wheel, it is only horizontal and lateral movement of it. The law doesn’t specify this unequivocally, which is why they’re arguing to figure out how to interpret it.

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          which is why they’re arguing to figure out how to interpret it.

          Yeah that’s the goto argument for companies literally not meeting regulation, they try to make it into a matter of interpretation if they can.
          If you have play in the movement vertically and horizontally, there will at least potentially/occasionally be similar play in the actual steering.
          My god it sounds like an embarrassing issue to have IMO. Even the cheapest cars from traditional makers that cost about a third don’t have that issue.

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            If you have play in the movement vertically and horizontally, there will at least potentially/occasionally be similar play in the actual steering

            No, they are two completely independent mechanical systems. Failure of one does not have a causal link to failure in the other.

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              There is no way that makes sense. If you have vertical play in the mounting, that vertical play will also have an impact in your movement of the steering wheel. When if for instance you hold the wheel on the side with one hand. any turning movement begins with a vertical movement.

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      So they’re rejecting play in the steering system, rather than play in one component of the steering system. That seems the correct thing to do.