Summary

Vivek Ramaswamy, co-leader of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) under Trump, is expected to step down to launch a campaign for Ohio governor.

Sources report friction between Ramaswamy, Elon Musk, and incoming DOGE staff, with Musk’s team criticizing his lack of participation and subtly encouraging his exit.

“Vivek has worn out his welcome,” one Trump associate said.

DOGE, a task force to streamline federal bureaucracy, is not a formal agency.

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    20 hours ago

    I don’t know, Bobby Jindal got elected and so did Nikki Haley.

    Of course, they changed their names to something that sounded less exotic to American ears.

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        19 hours ago

        I am not cool with that actually. People have a right to use whatever names for themselves they choose. If that applies to trans people, which it does, it also applies to cis people.

        If she wants to be Nikki Haley, fine.

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            2 hours ago

            Don’t you think saying someone is only using her childhood Punjabi nickname is just trying to make people think she’s white is the kind of thing a Nazi might say?

            Non-Western names can, believe it or not, sound like Western ones.

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          I hear what you are saying but in this context, someone is saying Vivek can not be elected in Ohio because of racism… they are saying yes that these folks with foreign sounding birth names were elected but only because they changed their names to something that sounds less “foreign” whatever that means.

          While I can agree with you about anyone being able to change their name to whatever they want I don’t think the criticism you are trying to apply here is very…. Without a better word… accurate?

          They are simply suggesting that Ohioans will vote for a foreigner or someone if they have a so called white sounding name. I have no idea if it’s true or not, but it feels like you’re being more of a troll here than actually than anything else.

          Of course a trans person can change their name so other people can better relate and interact with the gender they identify with…. I hear you saying that you are trying to be true to your beliefs whether you support the persons politics, which is awesome I hope we can all strive to do the same.

          I don’t think the poster cared that they changed their names to become governor of Ohio, but it is interesting… i have not seen or heard of any data that supports their premise, but anecdotally is sounds reasonable.

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            8 hours ago

            That may not have been what OP meant, I don’t know. But other people are saying she changed her name to sound white and it just isn’t true.

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              8 hours ago

              Has anyone asked her why she changed her name? I’ve heard or read articles suggesting that it was done to sound more white from progressive circles… I don’t really care if someone changes their name but it is interesting if they are doing it because their own constituents would see them as “other” had they not done it.

              Ted Cruz is another example I think.

              And oh yea don’t we have our first trans representative in congress now? I can’t remember what state but I remember Margerine Green Potato trying to pass a bill about bathrooms in the capitol recently?

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                8 hours ago

                I looked it up because no one else bothered to. It’s her childhood nickname and it means “little one” in Punjabi.

                People here are just assuming it was about fooling people about her ethnicity.

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                    Do you really think her parents called her a Punjabi name in childhood to make her more American just because it sounds like a Western name?

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          I’ll default to respecting people’s chosen names, but if they don’t offer that respect to others, they lose it from me.

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            9 hours ago

            So if a trans person doesn’t respect someone’s chosen name, you will deadname them? Doesn’t that make you no better than people like Haley?

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              Doesn’t the trans person not respecting someone’s chosen name make them no better than Haley?

              Decency is a social contract. I’ll default to being decent to others, but if they’re not decent to those around them, I feel no qualms with being similarly indecent to them. The difference is that I only do that in response to their indecency and will happily stop if they start being decent. This is no different from the paradox of tolerance.

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          Interesting you compare Nimarata’s attempt to cover her origins so she can be more appealing to her conservative audience to the dead names of trans people. I guess you’re saying it’s totally cool to identify as a different race when it works in your favor. Personally, I think such comparisons are an insult to trans people.

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            No, I think people are allowed to change their names and other people should respect their chosen identities.

            I assume you don’t talk about President Leslie Lynch King Jr. despite the fact that he changed his name to Gerald Ford because it sounded more manly, right? Who cares why people change their name?

            The whole point is that this should be a universal acceptance thing.

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                Please do show me where she used her childhood Punjabi nickname to convince people she’s white.

                My god, there are so many legitimate things to criticize her for and people are just stuck on something that isn’t.

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                  Yea I don’t care about her name as much as I do about her policy for sure, it’s just an interesting point someone brought up about how Vivek may have trouble getting elected with a “foreign” sounding name.

                  As someone who has traveled across the country multiple times i am slightly weary of going through Ohio because of hillbilly racism, and I am a white dude

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                No it isn’t. Self-identity is self-identity. Why should someone be an exception just because they’re horrible? Caitlyn Jenner is a Trump supporter and killed a person. Should we call her Bruce?

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                    Someone can only run for governor if they use their full legal name to do so? When did this law get passed? As I have pointed out already to two others, Nikki was her childhood nickname and it is a Punjabi word. This is no different from why Beto O’Rourke calls himself that. It was his childhood nickname. And, similarly, people came up with all sorts of nefarious reasons why he was doing it.

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                  No, but if she started calling herself a humanitarian, I’m not going to. If she started calling herself Native American, I wouldn’t. If she started calling herself god, I wouldn’t.

                  And neither would you—I hope.