imagine being THIS attached to brain rot apps
That’s what happens when you have some of the best user experience people and engineers in the world specifically designing for addiction. Facebook is no different, but their most successful demographic is. My grandma is hopelessly addicted to scrolling FB reels and my fiancé is hopelessly addicted to scrolling IG stories. Different target demographic, same goals
A point for irony, NGL. ⬆️
What is red note?
Afaik it is a chinees instagram / tiktok alternative
Soon Duolingo will be teaching you phrases like “Down with the imperialist scum!”
People are fucking stupid. I don’t think there’s any point in banning TikTok but they’re not wrong when they say it pushes Chinese propaganda and they’re probably not wrong when they say that they’re using it to spy on people.
So angry TikTok users want to make that worse for themselves out of spite?
Idiots.
Not once, not one single time while using the app, have I ever come across the app pushing Chinese propaganda.
I understand a lot of you, who have never even tried to give TikTok a chance mind you, don’t fully understand that once YOU curate YOUR algorithm, it becomes 90% only what YOU want to see. Trust me, I used to be one of you. I thought it was the dumbest thing to get on an app to watch people do dumb things, or to dance.
I had a partner at the time who would send me TikToks, and one day they sent me something that really impressed me. It was a very well done explanation of an animal, I can’t recall which right now. I was VERY impressed by his explanation of this animal I had never even heard of. So, I made one and followed this person.
I got LOADS of dumb shit thrown my way at first, but I told the algorithm I didn’t want to see these videos, and then… I get 90% of videos targeted towards things I like such as: activism, home improvement tips and tricks, tech related (videos about networking, good alternatives to programs that are ran by shitty people, etc.), skits that I find funny, and others who feel the same way I feel about this world and the way it is currently running. I had always felt like I was one of very very few people who care about these things, but TikTok showed me others who felt the same. People sharing their woes, people actually raising valid points like the Hong Kong protests and even getting millions of views. There is so much more out there than I can type out.
So, while I understand your face palm moment with this person, it is quite funny to always see these arguments of “TikTok bad” when you haven’t even tried to use it, and are only going off of the dumb people who use it and show/like dumb things. Dumb people post on YouTube, but no one talks about how stupid that is. God forbid an app I’ve never used do that too!
No hate, as like I said, I was once someone like you. There’s dumb shit on every platform, even here. You could’ve found out that there were plenty of videos that you would enjoy if you had given it a chance.
And to those who automatically get all patriotic about data and shit, the American social medias are not only worse, but use YOUR data in worse ways than a foreign country can. Not once did TikTok ask me for my location, and only the first time upon opening the app did it request permission for the camera and mic, which I denied, and it never asked again. As far as I know, Facebook/Messenger/Snapchat/Instagram CONSTANTLY want you to give them permissions even if you denied them before.
I don’t expect anyone here to care, because “TikTok bad”, but it is what it is.
I’ve literally been paid to make TikTok videos. I gave it a chance and found it wanting, but at least I was paid.
Anything on the rest of the points I made…?
For most people, the personal consequences of China being able to spy on them are nonexistent. The government that can actually abuse such power against them, e.g. prosecute them for out of state abortions, is the US.
So protesting the US banning an app and trying to force people to use their own spyware social media makes some level of sense.
It’s still obviously better to use privacy preserving and/or federated services, but that’s not something most people know about or understand.
Yes, and they also don’t care if they’re spoon-fed propaganda by their own choice. Because they’re idiots.
As if the other socials did not feed you propaganda.
“They do it too” does not make it okay.
I am not saying it is ok. I am saying it is not a factor when choosing between Chinese and US based social media.
Ah yes, the U.S. and China, the only two countries in the world, or at least the only two with social media platforms.
(Please don’t pay attention to the fact that you’re using a website for social interactions with a server in the Netherlands or this would be an issue for you.)
What are you even talking about?
Half the population thought the US government was trying to kill them with a vaccine and a face mask while they coughed themselves to death.
You’re absolutely right, people are fucking stupid.
The us population voted the Cheeto in a second time, kinda says it all really.
I literally had a friend breaking down over it and I suggested Fediverse alternatives and they looked at me like I had sprouted an extra head.
I even explained that US companies aren’t doing anything materially different than Tiktok (propaganda and spying on people), and they’re all bad. Still looking at me like I’m some kind of maniac.
Everyone bitches about corporations but so few want to actually stop sucking on their fucking teat.
People hate thinking. It blows my mind, but it’s the only thing I know for sure.
Maybe they were only in it for the propaganda?
I do love that some of the “refugees” (lol) are just moving to an even more Chinese app though. I don’t think it’s all that many but the propaganda pointing toward propaganda is hilarious.
I think a lot more who move will find out that it’s not as simple as spending a few weeks on Duolinguo learning some very basic Chinese to successfully make their way around a Chinese language app with most users also posting in Chinese.
It’s a big reason why I think they’re just falling for more propaganda and why I’m absolutely tickled.
Honestlyyyyy and yet when I speak about actually ethical alternatives, ppl then be like nah cba, too difficult, too much effort or too complicated when it only takes five mins or less to make an account and yet these same god damn ppl expect you to always listen to them.
We honestly truly live in a society.
People only want to make a difference if it only gives them good social points, not actual change or things that enable for them to actually think critically and change their viewpoints.
Feels pretty hopeless tbh esp as this is only the beginning of 2025 as well but hey at least there’s some logical people on here (though you do get the occasional dumbass on lemmy/mbin)
Political content is entirely banned on the app so your assertion that it pushes political propaganda when it refuses to host anything political at all is kind of reactionary fake news.
Who defines what is political content? Who controls it? Since when is all propaganda political?
Is a video talking about China’s terrific business opportunities political? No. Is it propaganda? Yes.
(Also, “political content is entirely banned” = no photos of the tank man or cartoons of Winnie the Pooh.)
Is a video talking about China’s terrific business opportunities political?
Yes it is. And it’s not allowed. Would be banned. I have never seen anything remotely close to what you describe here. :)
I have seen a lot of that on Instagram, though. Instagram has a surprisingly broad tankie community!
Are you really claiming praising China is not allowed and talking about how great it is would get the account banned? Because I do not believe you at all.
And if you’re right, why the hell would anyone want to use a platform where they literally can’t say how great the place they are is? Is only trivial and unemotional conversation allowed?
(I note you never actually said what defines political content or who controls that. I wonder why…)
You clearly came into this conversation with your mind made up so I am under no obligation to answer all your questions :P This is why people don’t like engaging with you
Flying Squid: “is ice cream with waffles good?”
me: “literally all my experience shows that the answer is yes”
Flying Squid: “i do not believe you at all”
No one forced you to engage with me in the first place. You didn’t have to respond to my initial comment if you don’t like engaging with me.
And, of course, nothing you said justifies refusing to give answers to very basic questions which happen to be critical of a platform you apparently like.
Source?
Also… ok boomer. lol
Source of what?
And I’m 47. I’m not even sure what age has to do with this.
Telling people your age in response to a boomer joke is such a xoomer thing to do
If you want to learn a language, Duolingo is pretty much the worst way to do so. Seek out community-created resources for your target language.
It depends on the language tbh. Several languages on duolingo are decent ways to dip your toes in the water for language learning, I’ve heard good things about the Spanish, German, and Mandarin courses. But it’s really dependent on the language, I tried Duolingo’s Irish course and it was so bad that I’m still trying to unlearn a good amount of misinformation, really soured language learning for me even though I eventually got a good course elsewhere.
I did both the Spanish and French trees completely, I do think I learned some things along the way, and some of it stuck. Every language learning method is not perfect, you need to immerse with multiple things. I was living in country, doing duolingo, listening to pimsleur, listening to radio in language, going to classes and hanging out with native speakers, and my fluency still is not great. It takes years of being a child before you get anywhere and no system is going to solve it alone
Ew but then I have to talk to actual people
/s
Thats /s feels unnecessary honestly. Introversion is on the rise globally.
That’s fair. Though I do think there’s some irony in wanting to learn a new language only to avoid communicating with people who use it (though I do also understand the utility of knowing a language isn’t exclusive to talking directly to people).
This news is brought to you by the company of China 🇨🇳
All the women in my office said everyone is moving to Lemonade. They said, “why would we move to another Chinese app? That’s dumb.”
No idea who owns Lemonade but it was interesting to me that they were not interested at all in Rednote.
Lemon8 is owned by the same company as TikTok, they’re literally trading one Chinese app for another anyways.
If you want to drop that bombshell at the office LMAO
Love it. Can’t wait to!
Keep us posted!
Lemonade is an insurance company, yeah, they moving their car insurance ti Lemonade.
It’s actually Lemon8
Is that not also shutting down?
Powered by tictok? What does that mean?
Lemon8 is a social media app owned by Heliophilia Pte. Ltd., a Singaporean company connected to the Chinese internet company ByteDance. It was launched in 2020 and modeled after Xiaohongshu, which was released in 2013.
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The U.S. launch of Lemon8 coincided with scrutiny over ByteDance and TikTok’s operations in the country;
🤷🏼♂️
A 216% increase sounds impressive, but probably isn’t because the starting number is very small.
Except Duolingo regularly releases these numbers. In July 2024 it was reported to be slightly above 9m monthly chinese learners…
So quite significant rise.
9m monthly Chinese learners in the USA? That’s pretty crazy.
No that’s global.
That makes more sense. I’d be interested to know the absolute increase in the number of learners in the USA but I guess the point remains that the ban caused some kind of uptick. As someone who’s been learning Mandarin off and on for many years I can only say good luck to them.
Duolingo:
i knew that damn owl was going to get involved in corporate lobbying at some point
Digital nomads gone wrong
Jokes on you I’m using it to learn Spanish.
Jokes on you I’m using it to be disappointed in myself.
Honestly I had that app on my phone for 3 months before I actually started using so I feel you there. It’s not that bad to start off with and it starts super slow. And fuck streaks and notifications and all that shit I just do it when I’m bored instead of scrolling and refreshing pages on my social media of choice.
I am using it to learn French. I also appreciate the lesson structure as it relates to available time. I use it on breaks, or in the morning before i start work. I hope, once i finish the duolingo course work, i can get some tutoring to really learn it. I agree it is a beneficial use of time, as opposed to social media.
Big Language works in timescales unimaginable.
