The indictment against the president's son comes after a plea agreement on tax and gun charges fell apart in July and amid a probe of his finances by House Republicans.
This is not new behavior from the repubs. They went after Clinton the same way and could only get him for purgery (iirc) because he lied about something that honestly should have stayed between Bill and Hillary.
It’s insane how much time and money they waste on trying to get the democrats instead of actually legislating and helping the idiots that voted them in. These morons keep voting for them though.
It’s because they broadly don’t care about legislation. They care about what was written in some book thousands of years ago and the dream that they could be rich and matter someday (most won’t).
Yeah, the ones with power don’t care about that book. They’ll use it, but they don’t believe it. Look at their actions and compare them to what written in the book. They care about power and money, the book is just a useful weapon to keep their “lessers” in line.
To be fair, fucking your intern is an abuse of power even if the intern is into that shit. Yes, Clinton probably wasn’t the first or the last but that doesn’t make it ok.
I say that as someone with a partner that fucks one of their managers. I still say that’s an ethical fail. But she ain’t my primary partner so her ethical failings aren’t really my concern. Just excellent gossip.
To be fair. She was an actual adult, not a kid and she only “regretted” and made it a problem after Linda Tripp convinced her it was a problem.
Maybe you don’t have the full story but while it was inappropriate, it should never have been made public like that and it wasn’t illegal for them to have a relationship
While I don’t disagree, comments like yours pointing out the nuance of it only serve to give them ammunition to pull this shit instead of running on policy and accomplishments, instead of fighting fair and winning elections on merit, they attack and tear down the dems when they win.
I’d also suggest that you and others look up the number of republicans caught having affairs with underage staffers, not just their subordinate but actual teenagers.
It was a problem because Clinton should not be having sex with his subordinates. That’s a clear abuse of his power. It doesn’t matter if Lewinsky was perfectly fine with it. It’s no different than why a college student isn’t supposed to have sex with their professors.
And yes I have the full story. I was alive and an adult at the time.
It should’ve been made public. We have a right to know our tax dollars are being spent to allow him to get his dick wet. If Clinton had been involved with someone that wasn’t a government employee I wouldn’t care. But that’s not the facts of the situation.
The best way to not give conservatives ammunition is to not fuck your direct reports. See? That’s really easy!
No, it should not have been made public like that. Sure, leak that shit via a news article or something but it should never have been used as an impeachment offense. The left has a big problem and until it’s solved we will never be able to take this country back completely from the magats. We throw people under the bus way too easily for offenses that aren’t world ending and have no bearing on doing their job or serving the country. I’ve lost count since I started paying attention in the early 90s, way too many good politicians (if questionable people/partners) have been kicked out of the mainstream and left in the virtual gutter because they did something like cheat on their wife with another adult.
Plenty of these relationships happen all of the time and no one goes to prison for it or loses their job, etc.
From what I remember when the real story finally came out, she was okay with it. He didn’t rape her or coerce her, she was using her mouth and pussy to get closer to power. You lot need to stop giving her and other women like her a pass just because he was her superior. She wanted and liked it until Tripp convinced her that she had been wronged.
Again. Playing this nuance game only hurts the argument from the side of common sense. Not unlike trying to explain that climate change means more than just hotter summers, it also means colder winters in some places as well.
Questionable people make great politicians. That’s sorta a problem, though, isn’t it? Maybe we should try letting people who aren’t so questionable have a shot instead of strategizing about how to keep shitty people in positions of power because it serves partisan goals? I know… crazy thinking, right?
So he broke the law, but it’s also likely unconstitutional. I don’t care about him, but he has the resources to fight it for the rest of the people who don’t. It’s not like this is every really enforced, but if he wanted to do good he’d fight it. If he wants to do what politically convenient he probably won’t. I have no expectation of him doing good though, nor should anyone. He’s a wealthy private citizen.
On one hand if he broke the law he broke the law. Charge him.
On the other hand I’m completely convinced he only got caught because Republicans have been “investigating” unnecessarily for years.
Which is super ironic considering Republicans are the party of “small govt” yet “big brother” is why Hunter got hit with anything.
I mean, he didn’t exactly keep it a secret. He wrote about it in his book and talked about it on the promo tour for said book.
This is not new behavior from the repubs. They went after Clinton the same way and could only get him for purgery (iirc) because he lied about something that honestly should have stayed between Bill and Hillary.
It’s insane how much time and money they waste on trying to get the democrats instead of actually legislating and helping the idiots that voted them in. These morons keep voting for them though.
It’s because they broadly don’t care about legislation. They care about what was written in some book thousands of years ago and the dream that they could be rich and matter someday (most won’t).
Yeah, the ones with power don’t care about that book. They’ll use it, but they don’t believe it. Look at their actions and compare them to what written in the book. They care about power and money, the book is just a useful weapon to keep their “lessers” in line.
They like to skip the parts that suggest, you know, loving thy neighbor, or don’t idolize people/things, or don’t be greedy.
You know, the stuff that doesn’t fill seats like some miracle child being born or dragging a cross through town or disappearing from his grave.
To be fair, fucking your intern is an abuse of power even if the intern is into that shit. Yes, Clinton probably wasn’t the first or the last but that doesn’t make it ok.
I say that as someone with a partner that fucks one of their managers. I still say that’s an ethical fail. But she ain’t my primary partner so her ethical failings aren’t really my concern. Just excellent gossip.
To be fair. She was an actual adult, not a kid and she only “regretted” and made it a problem after Linda Tripp convinced her it was a problem.
Maybe you don’t have the full story but while it was inappropriate, it should never have been made public like that and it wasn’t illegal for them to have a relationship
While I don’t disagree, comments like yours pointing out the nuance of it only serve to give them ammunition to pull this shit instead of running on policy and accomplishments, instead of fighting fair and winning elections on merit, they attack and tear down the dems when they win.
I’d also suggest that you and others look up the number of republicans caught having affairs with underage staffers, not just their subordinate but actual teenagers.
It was a problem because Clinton should not be having sex with his subordinates. That’s a clear abuse of his power. It doesn’t matter if Lewinsky was perfectly fine with it. It’s no different than why a college student isn’t supposed to have sex with their professors.
And yes I have the full story. I was alive and an adult at the time.
It should’ve been made public. We have a right to know our tax dollars are being spent to allow him to get his dick wet. If Clinton had been involved with someone that wasn’t a government employee I wouldn’t care. But that’s not the facts of the situation.
The best way to not give conservatives ammunition is to not fuck your direct reports. See? That’s really easy!
You really have no strategic sense at all.
No, it should not have been made public like that. Sure, leak that shit via a news article or something but it should never have been used as an impeachment offense. The left has a big problem and until it’s solved we will never be able to take this country back completely from the magats. We throw people under the bus way too easily for offenses that aren’t world ending and have no bearing on doing their job or serving the country. I’ve lost count since I started paying attention in the early 90s, way too many good politicians (if questionable people/partners) have been kicked out of the mainstream and left in the virtual gutter because they did something like cheat on their wife with another adult.
Plenty of these relationships happen all of the time and no one goes to prison for it or loses their job, etc.
From what I remember when the real story finally came out, she was okay with it. He didn’t rape her or coerce her, she was using her mouth and pussy to get closer to power. You lot need to stop giving her and other women like her a pass just because he was her superior. She wanted and liked it until Tripp convinced her that she had been wronged.
Again. Playing this nuance game only hurts the argument from the side of common sense. Not unlike trying to explain that climate change means more than just hotter summers, it also means colder winters in some places as well.
Questionable people make great politicians. That’s sorta a problem, though, isn’t it? Maybe we should try letting people who aren’t so questionable have a shot instead of strategizing about how to keep shitty people in positions of power because it serves partisan goals? I know… crazy thinking, right?
So he broke the law, but it’s also likely unconstitutional. I don’t care about him, but he has the resources to fight it for the rest of the people who don’t. It’s not like this is every really enforced, but if he wanted to do good he’d fight it. If he wants to do what politically convenient he probably won’t. I have no expectation of him doing good though, nor should anyone. He’s a wealthy private citizen.