People are conditioned to their environment. It’s like the far right assholes who hate the system but don’t understand that the real enemy is the rich and instead think we need to attack government. Yes, that’s bad too, but class warfare is the real answer while they suck off Musk for his “epic posts.”
I’m relieved that some amount of awareness is blooming. We can hope that it continues to develop.
No, the rich programmed their masses to blame everything on whatever left-wing party leader is in charge. That’s what Fox News and the rest of the Murdoch empire is for.
They need their 8 hours of hate to blame Emmanuel Goldstein for all of the world’s problems.
Don’t talk about that though you need to keep alienating them at every turn and never make any attempt to be the better person and gently educate people and stand tall on that hill you’re gonna die on so a rich guy can point at your blue hair from their third yacht.
It took 300h therapy to cure control my personality disorder and a significant portion of it was Dialectal Behavior Therapy. It turns out when they say that a common symptom of personality disorders is an abnormal morality they don’t necessarily mean bad or none. It can actually often be too much or more importantly too rigid. So a big part of DBT is actually to just completely let go of right and wrong and do what will work, practically speaking, to allow the most good to happen. Perfect is the enemy of good and a LOT of leftists are gonna die on their hills waiting for backup from that moral high ground that is just not coming. Meanwhile I’m hoping the incels notice how much pussy is lining up for Luigi.
No, I watch police bodycam videos on YT. They’re largely from states like Minnesota, Florida, etc. Largely rural. Largely small towns.
A Trump-supporting domestic abuser in one of them yesterday was who I had in mind when I commented. They have inaccurate world views, hence why they cling to their dogma. This is due to their news media distorting reality.
You’re not going to fight for class warfare if you enable a ruling class to exist above us as “government”.
Rejection of the state is the first step to liberation, once the rich no longer have the system that perpetuates their wealth acquisition and physically defends them, they won’t last long.
Getting rid of any concept of a state is what allows corporations to fill the gap. It’s corporate feudalism. The only thing that can push back against a collective entity is another collective entity.
No one wants authoritarians telling us how to live our lives. People are the priority, not consolidating power into the hands of a few individual rulers.
You ask for anarchy without realizing that anarchy is what the rich fucks like elon really dream of. A world without governments where their exclusion from any obligations to society and legal responsibility can be institutionalized.
This does not end up how you think it does. Not allowing for unchecked corporate power doesn’t mean consolidation of government power into the hands of a few.
Our system is broken because we allow corporations to go around the people and buy influence directly from politicians. Not all systems have to do that.
But Removing the people that corporations are currently buying influence from doesn’t mean they do being bad. It just means they have even fewer obstacles to doing what they want than they do now.
Rejection of the state is the first step to liberation, once the rich no longer have the system that perpetuates their wealth acquisition and physically defends them, they won’t last long.
I agree with what you’re saying regarding consumerism, BUT…
I think it’s way more important that people are showing support for Luigi. The elites can see this shit. If this is all we’ve got, I’ll definitely take it. Just something to think about.
If anything that Luigi touches basically becomes gold it’s going to lead to some very interesting behavior from people who want to capitalize on it, but if they do it’ll betray the narrative that’s being pushed. Which company is gonna be shamelessly greedy enough to break the line?
And if they do how will the government and other companies react? At the very least there’s conflicting interests happening. I’m very curious about how it’ll play out.
I get the feeling this one could play out differently.
If you look at the news outlets you’ll notice something. Depending on who their target demographic is depends on what kind of boogeyman he gets painted as.
for example democrat catering articles saying his white male privilege is why everyone loves him(it’s not) and trying to turn feminists on him by using those buzzwords.
Fox news is trying to paint him as a sad, whiney snowflake who was mad about back pain and getting kicked off his parents insurance at 26.
Some random ones who’s target demographic i couldn’t indentify calling people who support him “sick fans.” It’s clear they ALL want us to hate him, and anyone who supports him is insert artifically created culture war problem here
Do you think they’re succeeding? The overall negative impression I get is the “we get it but murder is wrong” opinion. I haven’t heard any culture war bullshit in either direction about it but tbf im not on social media.
I don’t hate him, but I can see his privilege. Of course some self-entitled white rich guy is going to flip out and kill somebody when life fucks him over. That’s the least surprising thing about this.
People are really missing the forest for the trees here. This isn’t about him. It’s about the health insurance industry and the people’s rage towards it. That’s so much larger and more important than a single man’s act of violence.
Jesus christ guys, does it get more vapid than consumerism as revolt?
People are conditioned to their environment. It’s like the far right assholes who hate the system but don’t understand that the real enemy is the rich and instead think we need to attack government. Yes, that’s bad too, but class warfare is the real answer while they suck off Musk for his “epic posts.”
I’m relieved that some amount of awareness is blooming. We can hope that it continues to develop.
The rich programmed you to accuse the far right like that.
No, the rich programmed their masses to blame everything on whatever left-wing party leader is in charge. That’s what Fox News and the rest of the Murdoch empire is for.
They need their 8 hours of hate to blame Emmanuel Goldstein for all of the world’s problems.
Don’t talk about that though you need to keep alienating them at every turn and never make any attempt to be the better person and gently educate people and stand tall on that hill you’re gonna die on so a rich guy can point at your blue hair from their third yacht.
that’s a good point.
It took 300h therapy to
curecontrol my personality disorder and a significant portion of it was Dialectal Behavior Therapy. It turns out when they say that a common symptom of personality disorders is an abnormal morality they don’t necessarily mean bad or none. It can actually often be too much or more importantly too rigid. So a big part of DBT is actually to just completely let go of right and wrong and do what will work, practically speaking, to allow the most good to happen. Perfect is the enemy of good and a LOT of leftists are gonna die on their hills waiting for backup from that moral high ground that is just not coming. Meanwhile I’m hoping the incels notice how much pussy is lining up for Luigi.No, I watch police bodycam videos on YT. They’re largely from states like Minnesota, Florida, etc. Largely rural. Largely small towns.
A Trump-supporting domestic abuser in one of them yesterday was who I had in mind when I commented. They have inaccurate world views, hence why they cling to their dogma. This is due to their news media distorting reality.
You’re not going to fight for class warfare if you enable a ruling class to exist above us as “government”.
Rejection of the state is the first step to liberation, once the rich no longer have the system that perpetuates their wealth acquisition and physically defends them, they won’t last long.
Getting rid of any concept of a state is what allows corporations to fill the gap. It’s corporate feudalism. The only thing that can push back against a collective entity is another collective entity.
And a strong regulation state would just be corporate captured like it is today.
Not necessarily.
No, it allows people to fill in the gap.
No one wants authoritarians telling us how to live our lives. People are the priority, not consolidating power into the hands of a few individual rulers.
You ask for anarchy without realizing that anarchy is what the rich fucks like elon really dream of. A world without governments where their exclusion from any obligations to society and legal responsibility can be institutionalized.
And then we have true, official neofeudalism.
Muskrat is at best an anarchocapitalist, which isn’t real anarchism because it doesn’t reject hierarchy.
Really, he’s a what’s best for me fuck everyone else ideology but with white supremacist flavoring. Pick your label for it, but anarchist is not it.
Not saying he is an anarchist, just that he wants anarchism. So he can become the new state.
He wants chaos, not anarchism.
Anarchy is communism and he is arguing like a communist
You are right about why it doesn’t work, someone will just fill the gap
Anarchy is not communism.
Anarchy is a system that doesn’t have an overarching hierarchical governmental system. Anarchy is bottom-up rather than top-down social management.
Communism can spring from anarchy, but is not a necessary component nor a necessary outcome.
Libertarians are anarchists, but on the right. Suggest communism to a libertarian and see where it gets you.
Some but not all anarchy is communism.
This does not end up how you think it does. Not allowing for unchecked corporate power doesn’t mean consolidation of government power into the hands of a few.
Our system is broken because we allow corporations to go around the people and buy influence directly from politicians. Not all systems have to do that.
But Removing the people that corporations are currently buying influence from doesn’t mean they do being bad. It just means they have even fewer obstacles to doing what they want than they do now.
I think there might be a word for that
Fuck yeah a fellow anarchist 👊🏻
I agree with what you’re saying regarding consumerism, BUT…
I think it’s way more important that people are showing support for Luigi. The elites can see this shit. If this is all we’ve got, I’ll definitely take it. Just something to think about.
Imagine being a CEO of a company and 5000 employees all show up wearing the same sweater. The odds are not in your favor, Chiefs.
I imagine the CEO of Nordstrom is feeling rather conflicted right now.
It’s actually interesting.
If anything that Luigi touches basically becomes gold it’s going to lead to some very interesting behavior from people who want to capitalize on it, but if they do it’ll betray the narrative that’s being pushed. Which company is gonna be shamelessly greedy enough to break the line?
And if they do how will the government and other companies react? At the very least there’s conflicting interests happening. I’m very curious about how it’ll play out.
Capitalism can commodify anything, even criticism of itself.
Che Guevara shirts enter the chat
You hear of rainbow capitalism? Meet Luigi capitalism in a couple months/years.
I get the feeling this one could play out differently.
If you look at the news outlets you’ll notice something. Depending on who their target demographic is depends on what kind of boogeyman he gets painted as.
for example democrat catering articles saying his white male privilege is why everyone loves him(it’s not) and trying to turn feminists on him by using those buzzwords.
Fox news is trying to paint him as a sad, whiney snowflake who was mad about back pain and getting kicked off his parents insurance at 26.
Some random ones who’s target demographic i couldn’t indentify calling people who support him “sick fans.” It’s clear they ALL want us to hate him, and anyone who supports him is insert artifically created culture war problem here
Do you think they’re succeeding? The overall negative impression I get is the “we get it but murder is wrong” opinion. I haven’t heard any culture war bullshit in either direction about it but tbf im not on social media.
I don’t hate him, but I can see his privilege. Of course some self-entitled white rich guy is going to flip out and kill somebody when life fucks him over. That’s the least surprising thing about this.
People are really missing the forest for the trees here. This isn’t about him. It’s about the health insurance industry and the people’s rage towards it. That’s so much larger and more important than a single man’s act of violence.
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I don’t think it’s consumerism so much as a bit of fanaticism, and also something of a uniform.
I express my dissent with character socks. Today I am wearing spongebob with great irony.