I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).

  • Since you seem to be a little thick: you’re being called a Nazi apologist because you’re effectively providing excuses for why Russia’s fascist dictator was right to invade Ukraine, or at the very least isn’t to blame. It’s a horseshit narrative because Putin alone is in charge of his army and Ukraine has not done anything a sovereign nation shouldn’t be allowed to do.

    It’s a direct attack on your position, which appears to apologize for a fascist dictator invading a sovereign nation. It’s neatly wrapped in the form of an insult, but that doesn’t make it an ad hominem by and of itself. For that to be the case, he’d have to call you a Nazi and not bother addressing what you said. But he directly addressed it, by stating that he believes your argument is apologizing for a fascist dictator. Hence it attacks your position, hence it’s not an ad hominem.

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      I’m not too thick to understand you have no way of knowing the intent of @recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee. I’m not defending Putin’s egregious invasion. But, that doesn’t mean I can’t recognize American imperialism had a hand in it’s provocation.

          • Yes, and I remember Russia demanding unreasonable terms as a condition for entering. They sabotaged that themselves. Russia demanded all kinds of foreign policy from NATO and demanded a special status within the alliance. They also did not want to follow the normal procedure for joining, like the other members did.

            This is all from your own source by the way. Did you even read it or are you just throwing links around hoping people don’t read them?

              • Which is also irrelevant, because it doesn’t in any way excuse Putins decision to invade Ukraine, raping and killing innocent civilians as a result.

                Regardless, Russia is and always was a sovereign nation. The US can advise whatever they like, Russian leadership ultimately decided what actually got implemented. Not to mention the pretty terrible state the Soviet economy was in already.

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                  I hate to be the one to tell you this, and I mean no offense, but you just don’t understand; we’re not as moral as we think. 🤔

                  • Lmao as if I don’t know? Philosophy experiments are fun and all but humans just suck at conceptualizing beyond what we can see. Random kids across the ocean people have a hard time empathising with unprompted.

                    Regardless, this is another completely irrelevant article you’ve shared. Perhaps one could argue the west is standing by as a Ukrainian child is drowning. But that’s still infinitely more moral and ethical than taking the child from his mother, dragging it into a pond, raping it there, then shooting it, all in front of their mother, only to then call it “provoked” and “self-defense”, all because mommy decided to open a Tinder account and matched with a couple western guys. Because that’s all justified of course, only a couple decades ago were you their abusive boyfriend so clearly it’s justified, right?

                    Such a paragon of morality, that Putin fella.