• shadmere@lemmy.world
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    I feel like I’m lucky now if they’re even willing to SELL me the utility that used to come standard.

    More than half the time, when the new, sleek product gets rid of functionality, the response to, “How do I do all the things I need to do?” is essentially, “You don’t!”

    And if you ask to keep using the previous product, the response is, “No.”

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    This is how I feel about ultra-slim laptops that only have USB-C ports. I don’t care if it needs to be 10% thicker, I want a usable port damn it!

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      Funnily enough, there was a post arguing about this not so long ago.

      I know adapters exist, but for something like HDMI that I use quite regularly, I’ll have a dedicated port thanks.

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        I tried using an HDMI adapter (the kind you is find on these tiny USB C hubs to bring along your laptop) for playing proper video and the sound was missing everything under like 200hz, unwatchable. It’s clearly made to show spreadsheets and PowerPoints and not much else.

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          The output is capped at 4k 30hz on the cheaper ones, and I assume the cheaper ones wouldn’t have particularly good audio.

          HDMI still has the edge over all but the very latest version of USB C, at least with high end equipment. But, it works fine for PowerPoint, which is exactly what I’m using it for.

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          USB-C supports both digital and analog audio. HDMI only supports digital audio though, so in that case the DAC would be in whatever device you’re plugging the HDMI cable into.

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          doesn’t hdmi send digital audio?

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              so you want like an adapter that can deliver audio separate from hdmi? like it has a hdmi port and a 3.5mm jack? i think i’ve seen stuff like that but i doubt you’d get a good dac in one of them.

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            Which is a great approach IMO. The advantages of dongles without the inconvenience. The Framework 16 has 6 ports which is more than enough for me. I use two USB-C, two USB-A, headphone, and SD card. I sometimes swap the SD card slot for MicroSD, and one of the USB-C for Ethernet. I have HDMI and DisplayPort for if I need them.

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            Pretty much. A fun exercise tho is to pop them out and connect them to my phone when i need ethernet, for… reasons…

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      You’d think there would be a thinner Ethernet port by now. That standard is several decades old.

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        I agree with the notion, but at the same time, I think no one wants to deal with the mess of having two different kinds of Ethernet plugs. I mean, if you think about it, needing dongles for connecting Ethernet to USB-C is exactly what would happen, if you had two different Ethernet plugs. So, at this rate, might as well start having USB-C ports on routers, so you can run a USB-C cable all the way…

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        There is. Most laptops have RJ45 ports that fold out now a days.