Well, the video starts already well into the altercation and that’s a high-end main shopping street with all the most expensive shops and the kind of place where there is usually police around, but yeah it’s a a bit of of 50\50 thing whether even in a place like London or Paris a copper would pop-up in time for the video.
Also it depends on how likely people are to call the police in such a situation (if the guy did this in, for example Scandinavia, the police would likey end up involved).
I forget the term but there is something that happens in a society given a large enough number of people.
People will walk on by as they assume with that many people about someone else will call the police or intervene.
Then there is the I don’t want to be murdered by this guy too so I’m not getting involved in that.
I live in Manchester and I see it all the time. There could be 5000 milling about through the city centre and some nutcase screaming at people and nobody cares. They’re too busy, too desensitised, or just terrible people.
It’s in the best interest of the shop to stop this kind of thing ASAP so they’re far more likely to call the cops if there’s an altercation at their door that’s even going into the shop.
Further, it also depends on the kind of country.
I lived in the UK: it’s far more violent as societies go and far more prone to “I don’t want to get involved” behaviours than other countries in Europe. I’ve seen the way people respond to the same situation in for example England and The Netherlands and it’s very different.
Don’t assume that what you see in Manchester is representative of what you would see in Paris, and definitelly not of what you would seen in Northern Europe.
Well, the video starts already well into the altercation and that’s a high-end main shopping street with all the most expensive shops and the kind of place where there is usually police around, but yeah it’s a a bit of of 50\50 thing whether even in a place like London or Paris a copper would pop-up in time for the video.
Also it depends on how likely people are to call the police in such a situation (if the guy did this in, for example Scandinavia, the police would likey end up involved).
So we agree that calling whatever country this is “fucked up” is a little premature given we don’t have all the information as to what transpired.
It’s not just based on the police response but how other people around him are behaving, for example on their phones and calling the police.
You can see people passing by and ignoring that shit as if it was normal.
A guy shouting “I’ll kill you” whilst pursuing somebody into a store would trigger the people at the store calling the police in most of Europe.
I forget the term but there is something that happens in a society given a large enough number of people.
People will walk on by as they assume with that many people about someone else will call the police or intervene.
Then there is the I don’t want to be murdered by this guy too so I’m not getting involved in that.
I live in Manchester and I see it all the time. There could be 5000 milling about through the city centre and some nutcase screaming at people and nobody cares. They’re too busy, too desensitised, or just terrible people.
Paris is very similar too.
Bystander effect
That’s it. Thanks.
That doesn’t apply to the people at the shop.
It’s in the best interest of the shop to stop this kind of thing ASAP so they’re far more likely to call the cops if there’s an altercation at their door that’s even going into the shop.
Further, it also depends on the kind of country.
I lived in the UK: it’s far more violent as societies go and far more prone to “I don’t want to get involved” behaviours than other countries in Europe. I’ve seen the way people respond to the same situation in for example England and The Netherlands and it’s very different.
Don’t assume that what you see in Manchester is representative of what you would see in Paris, and definitelly not of what you would seen in Northern Europe.
I didn’t assume anything I’ve witnessed it in Paris too.
Anyway, I’ve had enough of debating without all the information so let’s leave it here and both have excellent days.