Hoy, todos los que amamos este bello Jardín de América, y del mundo- nos duelen las entrañas y el corazón se nos aprieta de rabia y de dolor. Este es un pueblo noble y pacífico, que ama profundamente a su isla.
I’m going to jump in and defend this comment because it is technically correct. If you reside in Puerto Rico, you cannot vote. If you were born and raised in California, or Kentucky, or any other state and you move to Puerto Rico, you lose your right to vote. If you were born and raised in Puerto Rico but move to any of the fifty states, you can vote. Yes, it is stupid. All US citizens should have the right to vote, regardless of where they reside.
Many Puerto Ricans who move out of the island tend to keep up with the goings on by streaming radio stations and reading online version of the newspaper like El Nuevo Dia. El Nuevo Dia is literally telling Puerto Ricans and people.of Puerto Rican decent that it is their duty to vote for Harris. This reads more like a mandate than an endorsement.
If a Puerto Rican, an American citizen, moves to South Carolina, they can vote just like any other citizen.
If I, born in the US mainland, moved to PR, would I be eligible to vote for the president via absentee ballot?
Because if not, that’s genuinely fucked. If I can move to a whole ass other country and maintain that right, but lose it if I move to a part of my own country, that makes no sense. Honestly, it’s downright fucking hostile.
If I, born in the US mainland, moved to PR, would I be eligible to vote for the president via absentee ballot?
Not if you declare Puerto Rico as your residence. If you have homes in three states, and split your time equally between them, you can still only be resident of one state. If you move to Puerto Rico permanently, you can still technically declare your residence as North Carolina as long as you maintain an address, drivers license and file taxes there. If so, you can vote absentee in North Carolina from Puerto Rico.
EDIT: There is no difference between “Americans” and Puerto Ricans because they are all Americans. There is a difference between Puerto Rico and a US state. The people aren’t different, the territory is. I hope that clears it up a little for you.
Re: your edit. Absolutely, I hope I didn’t suggest otherwise in my question.
Re: the rest. That makes sense, I suppose. But it still seems genuinely fucked. Almost as if our laws are designed to give the middle finger to the island and it’s residents.
I totally understood you, I am just workshopping a one sentence answer because it comes up a lot. People always say “Puerto Ricans can’t vote” and that is not true. Plus it makes feel like “others” rather than Americans. The correct statement is that “Puerto Ricans can vote, Puerto Rico cannot.”
I think it’s important to clarify the difference between “living in” and “residing”. If you live in Paris, France but your US residence is still listed as Paris, Texas, you can vote. If you live in Paris, France but your US residence is listed as San Juan, Puerto Rico, you cannot vote.
Here is the kicker. If you live in Puerto Rico but you are still listed as residing in California, you can vote via mail. It is moronic.
EDIT: Your place of residence is normally what is on your drivers license, voter registration and tax returns.
I had no idea about this. I have friends who lived in Europe their entire life who can vote in this election - but if you’re born and raised in Texas but move to PR you lose your right to vote?
Puerto Rico has more people living in it than both the Dakotas, Montana, and Wyoming combined. It would have been the 30th biggest state.
An it’s being treated like absolute shit, with Americans in this very thread not understanding that they’re even part of the US.
At last if Trump wins the election they will be able to just leave this sinking shipwreck of a country, and the idiots in charge won’t even know they were ever part of the US.
If I’m born and raised in Texas, then move to Puerto Rico for say five years, and then move on straight to Europe, do I regain my right to vote overseas (though Texas) ? And could be state specific (so maybe Texas wouldn’t allow it, but California would, etc) ?
You don’t lose your right to vote technically.
Remember that votes in the general election are for selecting an elector, who goes to DC and votes on your behalf. PR has 0 electors.
You can move back, or maintain a primary residence in a state, and then you can vote on an elector, and by extension, the presidency.
I’m going to jump in and defend this comment because it is technically correct. If you reside in Puerto Rico, you cannot vote. If you were born and raised in California, or Kentucky, or any other state and you move to Puerto Rico, you lose your right to vote. If you were born and raised in Puerto Rico but move to any of the fifty states, you can vote. Yes, it is stupid. All US citizens should have the right to vote, regardless of where they reside.
Many Puerto Ricans who move out of the island tend to keep up with the goings on by streaming radio stations and reading online version of the newspaper like El Nuevo Dia. El Nuevo Dia is literally telling Puerto Ricans and people.of Puerto Rican decent that it is their duty to vote for Harris. This reads more like a mandate than an endorsement.
Okay, I’m worried about jumping into this one because it seems to have gotten heated. But I’m really curious about something.
I’m a US citizen, born in South Carolina. If I move to England, i can still vote via absentee ballot.
If a Puerto Rican, an American citizen, moves to South Carolina, they can vote just like any other citizen.
If I, born in the US mainland, moved to PR, would I be eligible to vote for the president via absentee ballot?
Because if not, that’s genuinely fucked. If I can move to a whole ass other country and maintain that right, but lose it if I move to a part of my own country, that makes no sense. Honestly, it’s downright fucking hostile.
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Not if you declare Puerto Rico as your residence. If you have homes in three states, and split your time equally between them, you can still only be resident of one state. If you move to Puerto Rico permanently, you can still technically declare your residence as North Carolina as long as you maintain an address, drivers license and file taxes there. If so, you can vote absentee in North Carolina from Puerto Rico.
EDIT: There is no difference between “Americans” and Puerto Ricans because they are all Americans. There is a difference between Puerto Rico and a US state. The people aren’t different, the territory is. I hope that clears it up a little for you.
Re: your edit. Absolutely, I hope I didn’t suggest otherwise in my question.
Re: the rest. That makes sense, I suppose. But it still seems genuinely fucked. Almost as if our laws are designed to give the middle finger to the island and it’s residents.
I totally understood you, I am just workshopping a one sentence answer because it comes up a lot. People always say “Puerto Ricans can’t vote” and that is not true. Plus it makes feel like “others” rather than Americans. The correct statement is that “Puerto Ricans can vote, Puerto Rico cannot.”
If expat yanks living in Paris or Moosejaw can vote by mail, why can’t yanks living in PR?
I think it’s important to clarify the difference between “living in” and “residing”. If you live in Paris, France but your US residence is still listed as Paris, Texas, you can vote. If you live in Paris, France but your US residence is listed as San Juan, Puerto Rico, you cannot vote.
Here is the kicker. If you live in Puerto Rico but you are still listed as residing in California, you can vote via mail. It is moronic.
EDIT: Your place of residence is normally what is on your drivers license, voter registration and tax returns.
The solution to this, of course, is to simply give Puerto Rico statehood.
Red maggots will never let it happen… Especially now
Also this referendum doesn’t really mean anything… Is just for setting up future discussions
this should have been done a long time ago. there’s gonna be a referendum on nov 5 2024 along with the general election: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Puerto_Rican_status_referendum
PR (pop: 3.2M) has more population than Wyoming (pop: 586K), Vermont (pop: 648K), Alaska (pop: 734K), and North Dakota (pop: 789K) combined (2.8M)
Puerto Ricans (at least outside of PR) tend to be less inclined to vote right wing unless another famous little Caribbean island
I had no idea about this. I have friends who lived in Europe their entire life who can vote in this election - but if you’re born and raised in Texas but move to PR you lose your right to vote?
Puerto Rico has more people living in it than both the Dakotas, Montana, and Wyoming combined. It would have been the 30th biggest state.
An it’s being treated like absolute shit, with Americans in this very thread not understanding that they’re even part of the US.
At last if Trump wins the election they will be able to just leave this sinking shipwreck of a country, and the idiots in charge won’t even know they were ever part of the US.
If I’m born and raised in Texas, then move to Puerto Rico for say five years, and then move on straight to Europe, do I regain my right to vote overseas (though Texas) ? And could be state specific (so maybe Texas wouldn’t allow it, but California would, etc) ?
You don’t lose your right to vote technically. Remember that votes in the general election are for selecting an elector, who goes to DC and votes on your behalf. PR has 0 electors.
You can move back, or maintain a primary residence in a state, and then you can vote on an elector, and by extension, the presidency.
Thanks, that makes sense. At least on a technical level. What a mess.
All the more reason (or not, depending on your party affiliation) to ditch the electoral college and go with a ranked-choice popular vote.