L’année dernière le sujet a été abordés par @AlexisFR@jlai.lu
[https://jlai.lu/u/AlexisFR] et je souhaite relancé l’idée de dé-fédérer de
cette instance. Je navigue depuis quelque temps sans bloquer la moindre
instances question de simuler un peu l’expérience de quelqu’un qui rejoint le
fediverse via l’instance jlai.lu [http://jlai.lu]. Les posts qui apparaissent
dans le fil et le comportement de la plupart des usagers de cette instance
pollue tout simplement l’expérience Lemmy. Même sans parler de possible liens
avec CCP, Kremlin etc… je pense que, à mon humble avis, leur comportement et
leur façons de brigader et de diffamer une opinion qui ne diverge que d’à peine
d’un poil de leur courant de penser, va sincèrement à l’encontre de l’état
d’esprit de notre communauté sur cette instance. Je me suis opposé sans vraiment
me prononcer l’année dernière à une dé-fédération (étant donné qu’ils ne sont
pas francophone et que j’aime bien le drama inter-instances de temps temps) mais
leurs prises de positions en permanence ahurissantes et (en pesant mes mots au
maximum) d’une flagrante dissonance cognitive je dois dire que trop c’est trop.
Je pense sincèrement que malgré le fait nos intéractions soit assez minimes avec
cette instance je pense que sur le long terme leur influence est nocive et que,
dans l’idée de garder une certaines sérénité pour les personnes et futures
personnes qui utiliseront cette instance, qu’il y ai une dé-fédération de cette
instance de la notre.
Example (others have been removed as that person has been banned)
Funny, because not too long ago I saw a bunch of HBs and MLs going on about how “the libs can’t go more than one comment chain without wishing death and torture on anyone not voting like them”
Now who else do I know of where every accusation is a confession… Or projection, if you will.
Seems like a lot of them like to Gaslight, Obstruct AND Project.
I’ve always felt this way about tankies and the horseshoe theory in general. Conservatism spawned from the “Bourgeoise”; all the religious lords and landowners who profited from, and supported, monarchs and authoritarian rule. Tankie belief systems align with that “bourgeoise” perfectly.
The concept of authoritarian socialism is a contradiction. Without democracy, freedom of thought, and freedom of person — from fear of retribution for wrongthink — the workers never had a say; never “seized” control of anything. Tankies are nothing more than a continuation of the authoritarian rule that came before them. Both Hitler and Trump have said they represent the wprking class. Saying you represent the working class is meaningless. You need to prove it with your actions.
Ultimately tankies are closer to the Tsars, Kings, and colonialism they replaced, than they are to the concept of freedom and equality for the working class. They just want to be the oppressor, and probably believe that communism is the best chance they have to ever be in a position to fulfil that role.
Funny, because not too long ago I saw a bunch of HBs and MLs going on about how “the libs can’t go more than one comment chain without wishing death and torture on anyone not voting like them”
Now who else do I know of where every accusation is a confession… Or projection, if you will.
Seems like a lot of them like to Gaslight, Obstruct AND Project.
I’ve always felt this way about tankies and the horseshoe theory in general. Conservatism spawned from the “Bourgeoise”; all the religious lords and landowners who profited from, and supported, monarchs and authoritarian rule. Tankie belief systems align with that “bourgeoise” perfectly.
The concept of authoritarian socialism is a contradiction. Without democracy, freedom of thought, and freedom of person — from fear of retribution for wrongthink — the workers never had a say; never “seized” control of anything. Tankies are nothing more than a continuation of the authoritarian rule that came before them. Both Hitler and Trump have said they represent the wprking class. Saying you represent the working class is meaningless. You need to prove it with your actions.
Ultimately tankies are closer to the Tsars, Kings, and colonialism they replaced, than they are to the concept of freedom and equality for the working class. They just want to be the oppressor, and probably believe that communism is the best chance they have to ever be in a position to fulfil that role.
I agree, though I think they latch onto communism as a sign of virtue signalling.
Sprinkle in a healthy dose of AstroTurf and you get a nice little cult growing.
Hexbear users very literally threatening to kill me is one (just one) of the reasons I hate that instance. The .ml instances aren’t much better.
.ml is just the public facing arm of the same terroristic people. An example is “Sinn Féin” from the IRA times.