• switchboard_pete@fedia.io
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    23 days ago

    Foreign direct investment is not the same as deindustrializing your own country

    and as i said at the outset, “we’re just investing elsewhere” is how us outsourcing started

    “they’re not doing it at the expense of hollowing out their domestic industry” is a completely baseless claim when following an equivalent timescale the same would have been true about the us

    What do you think economic efficiency is?

    ratio between resources expended to resources produced

    The expectation is that you engage critically so that you can match up the source with the part they are talking about.

    they were using the source to argue that china is intentionally moving away from private ownership. the source saying that the move is unintentional is absolutely materially relevant, and it’s laughable that you’d accuse me of failing to engage critically when you missed that.

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      23 days ago

      and as i said at the outset, “we’re just investing elsewhere” is how us outsourcing started

      You are confusing yourself. In this thread, the things we went back and forth on in this segment is your claims about sending industry overseas and economic efficiency.

      As I said, deindustrializing your own country is not economically efficient. Try your hardest to stay germane.

      “they’re not doing it at the expense of hollowing out their domestic industry” is a completely baseless claim when following an equivalent timescale the same would have been true about the us

      Everything you have said is baseless speculation that China’s FDI is going to follow the exact same path as that of the US, which was backed by finance. But both the geopolitical and economic foundations are different, as I have explained. We have not discussed this with any depth because you are illogically talking in circles despite me having already addressed this silly vibes-based point.

      ratio between resources expended to resources produced

      A ratio? So you quantify it? Quick, what was China’s economic efficiency for 2023! Presumably it’s just a number that, if represented by a fraction, is less than 1. Every political economist would love to learn that the thing you just made up is actually a very important statistic.

      they were using the source to argue that china is intentionally moving away from private ownership.

      There is only one (1) sentence where they talk about this and they didn’t say that. If I had to guess, you are projecting your reaction.

      the source saying that the move is unintentional is absolutely materially relevant, and it’s laughable that you’d accuse me of failing to engage critically when you missed that.

      Yeah that’s obviously the part I said was editorializing. You have confused yourself again. Maybe take a little break from trying to get some “owns” in? They’re not landing like you think they are.