Work by Ron Cobb

  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    but you can’t look at something like F1 and say that’s not exhilarating.

    strong disagree. perhaps in the 60s and 70s - before we understood that ICE was spewing carbon dioxide and ruining the ecosystem sure.

    Today? F1 is a fucking travesty - rich assholes burning crazy amounts of fuel to speed around in circles taking more from future generations every fucking lap.

    If it were all electric powered by renewable resources harvested nearby I’d have less of an issue, but anything combusting is a giant middle finger to your own children. “Sorry skippy, even we knew, we still didn’t give a fuck to stop the silly games.”

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      4 hours ago

      Today? F1 is a fucking travesty - rich assholes burning crazy amounts of fuel to speed around in circles taking more from future generations every fucking lap.

      While I don’t disagree that spectating races is boring, the amount of CO2 those put out pale in comparison to commutator traffic or the container ships running bunker fuel. We could have EV races and if each manufacturer entered their base models, could help with adoption. We could also make the ICE races run biogas(methane from antibiotic digesters) or biodiesel(tractor pulls could easily adopt that with only a small lowering of performance that all the tractors would share).

      but anything combusting is a giant middle finger to your own children.

      All consumption is.

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        2 hours ago

        All consumption is.

        consumption for production is one thing, entirely optional, benefitting only one party entertainment coming at the cost of everyone else?

        that’s a dick move.

        • lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          2 hours ago

          The emissions from 20 cars driving in circles for a few hours a week could continue until the end of humanity and still be just a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of damage the production industry has done up to this point.

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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            2 hours ago

            bud the bucket overflowed a long, long time ago. now it’s pouring over the rim, and you’re like: eh, it’s just a few thousand tons of CO2 every year, for funsies, it won’t matter.

            it all matters. you’re just too vroom vroom to fucking care.

            • lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              2 hours ago

              The emissions from the cars themselves isn’t even 2000 tons of CO2. That’s 1/200000 of 1% of annual emissions. If you’re that concerned, you shouldn’t be on this site because the server, your computer, and your router are all adding CO2 to the atmosphere.

                • lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  26 minutes ago

                  Then you better not live in a house, turn your lights on, use your computer, go to the grocery store, go see a movie, go to a concert, buy anything at all, travel any other way than by foot. Or you could put your effort into something that’ll actually make a difference.

    • lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      6 hours ago

      I agree the environmental impacts are certainly an issue, but the emissions from the sport alone aren’t that bad, the worst is from all the travel done on private jets between locations. They’ve also done some work towards being more eco-friendly. The cars run hybrid V6s instead of V10s and by 2026 will use fully renewable biofuel. There’s also Formula E, which is an entirely electric motorsport.

      There’s just some things an ICU can do that an electric motor can’t. It’s simply impossible to get the same amount of power as an F1 car from purely electric propulsion at the same weight.

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        5 hours ago

        so you know it’s a problem, you know the sport’s total footprint is the cause, you even point out THEY know it’s wretched and are making half hearted efforts to someday maybe do something.

        but you give them your attention.

        There’s just some things an ICU can do that an electric motor can’t.

        but it’s entertainment, not some mission critical life saving thing, it’s to watch cars go fast driving in circles.

        fuck me, our civilization deserves to collapse.

        • BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
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          4 hours ago

          we deserve to collapse because we like to be entertained?

          i wonder if what you used to type and send this comment onto the internet uses any sort of battery

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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            4 hours ago

            we deserve to collapse because we like to be entertained?

            when the specific entertainment is dicking around the ONLY FUCKIN’ ATMOSPHERE WE HAVE yeah I think so.

            you like the taste of smog? or is it simping for petroleum companies?

            Or is the attraction fracking?

            Watching the poles melt in real time?

            Come on man, which is the part that gives you the entertainment?